Archive for October, 2008

Favre admits to talking with Millen

October 22, 2008

(Thanks for the update DDD – was reading PFT’s article when your comment came in).

So, Favre seems to be going back on his initial comment that this was all “total B.S.” Even if Favre is to be taken at his word here, which is hard to do anymore, I still don’t like that he would share this info with a team we were about to play. As Leroy Butler said, he can see Favre doing something like this because Favre likes to talk. But it just doesn’t seem right to talk to the team the Pack is about to play…especially if he knows other coaches are in the room listening etc. (And, if others were in the room listening, I have a hard time believing that the purpose of the call was simply to discuss hunting).

Favre’s story is, as expected, a bit different from Glazer’s report. Even if we factor into this the likelihood that sleezy, horrible GM Matt Millen probably pushed Favre to reveal some info like a life insurance salesman (sorry I had a bad experience with one recently) – that is no excuse. All Favre had to say was “nice try, you horrendous GM, nice try”.


ESPN weighs in on Favre – sort of

October 21, 2008

Read below from PFT (the abbreviation we’ll use henceforth for This is interesting. It essentially says that ESPN didn’t post the story or link to it because their sources indicated it is false. I do wonder how PFT got this info.


When we asked for PFT Planet to chime in regarding the possible reasons for ESPN’s decision to avoid the story of Brett Favre’s coaching internship with the Lions, we never expected to hear from someone at ESPN.

But we did.

A source, who for reasons likely related to making the monthly mortgage payment has asked not to be identified, has forwarded to us a version of ESPN’s internal “Hot List,” which provides a detailed rundown of the current stories that might merit mention on the various ESPN properties.

It’s a lengthy collection of news and nuggets regarding all of the major sports (and golf).  At the bottom, there’s a description of one specific story that should be avoided.

Under the heading “DO NOT REPORT . . . DO NOT REPORT . . . . DO NOT REPORT . . . DO NOT REPORT” (um, we get the point) appears the following:

“Yesterday, FoxSports reported that Brett Favre spent 60 to 90 minutes before the Week Two game between the Lions and the Packers educating the Detroit coaching staff regarding the Packers’ offensive strategies.  WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY RELIABLE SOURCES THIS REPORT IS NOT TRUE.  We did NOT report it yesterday.  Today, the NFL responded to the report, saying even if Favre did this he did not break any league rules.  We are NOT reporting it today, because that would mean airing the erroneous report.  DO NOT REPORT IT.”

We’ve got several problems with this explantion.

First, much like the rumors from several years back regarding Kordell Stewart’s sexuality, the story eventually becomes the story.  The mere fact that there’s an unresolved pissing match between Favre and Jay Glazer while a Lions head coach repeats “no comment” like Drew Rosenhaus barking “next question” is newsworthy, regardless of whether Glazer’s report is accurate.

Second, we know for a fact that folks in the building are privately saying that believe that Glazer’s report is true.

Third, Glazer has a long history of being on the money.  Shouldn’t that be a factor in the question of whether the story at least merits a mention?

Fourth, what’s the problem with reporting that the story isn’t accurate?  Doesn’t it make ESPN look good in comparison to a competitor?  (Then again, maybe ESPN only clears the air as to their own inaccurate stories.)

On Wednesday, Favre undoubtedly will be asked about the situation when he meets with the media for a weekly press conference.  Applying the logic reflected by the above quote, ESPN’s ”do not report” mandate should also apply to any response Favre makes to Glazer’s report.

After all, in ESPN’s estimation, the report is wrong.  Having Favre repeat his denial of the report won’t change that.

Bottom line?  We think there’s still more to this one than meets the eye.  But at least we now know why Bristol’s rank and file aren’t talking about it.

On the air, that is.

Favre’s Trouble with the Truth, Part 274

October 21, 2008

Read this, from Sam Farmer.  He’s the Los Angeles Times writer who first reported that Favre’s agent was sniffing out possible landing sites for his client in the event that Favre wanted to come out of retirement.  Skeptics dismissed Farmer’s story and some Packer bloggers let loose with over-the-top attacks on him.  And it turns out Farmer was right, of course.  (Those bloggers never apologized to him, far as I know.)

So he’s skeptical of Favre’s denials.  And I’m with him.

More Thoughts on Favre

October 21, 2008

I don’t believe Brett Favre’s denials.  In the interview that Andy linked below, Jay Glazer comes as close as possible to naming his source without actually naming his source.  (An expanded transcript comes courtesy of Greg Bedard.)

I will say this, Jim, I stand by my story 1,000%. 1,000%….These are strong accusations (against Favre), damn right you have to be 100%, are you kidding me?…You have to get it straight from the horse’s mouth on this, you have to get it from people who know the situation and who’ve been involved with the situation. That’s why I stand so strongly behind my source. My sources, I should actually say, because it was from more than one person.

We know that Glazer did not talk to Favre — a fact that some are using against him — and we know that he got his information “straight from the horse’s mouth on this.”  So Glazer presumably spoke with one of the Lions’ coaches who received the Favre briefing.  I think it’s highly unlikely that Glazer would say something like that publicly unless he could back it up.

And then, via PFT, we learn that LeRoy Butler thinks there’s a lot more coming.

Even though I was initially sympathetic to Favre in his dispute with the Packers, the guy revealed himself to be a low-class idiot as that process unfolded.  This is more evidence and if Butler’s right, we’ll have more still in the coming days.

Does Bob Sanders read Packergeeks?

October 20, 2008

After reading this article from the GB Press Gazette, I can’t help but wonder if Bob Sanders did some late night internet surfing last week for more ideas on how to defend against the Colts. I think he may have stumbled upon this Packergeeks post back in June and decided to go with my recommendation for a 4-2-5 defense to shut down the pass! Following is the excerpt that may have caught his eye:

While my inclination at this very early point would be to stick with Collins and Bigby, I must say, I’m greatly comforted knowing Rouse is back there and ready to jump in if things don’t work out. Of course, another alternative I know Sanders wouldn’t consider would be a 4-2-5 defense. I know it sounds ridiculous but many times innovative ideas are initially considered ridiculous (a 5 receiver set…who does that!). Why not play to the strengths of our personnel and start with Rouse, Bigby AND Collins, with Barnett and Hawk manning the LB spots. Rouse is clearly more of a playmaker than Poppinga, is better in coverage and he has at least the potential to be as physical and therefore not a huge drop-off in the run game. This would make passing against the Pack brutal, assuming Harris and Woodson can maintain their games.

While I consider myself more of an offensive minded coach, Bob, I would accept an assistant defensive position of some kind.

Favre via Peter King: “total b.s.”

October 20, 2008

Read below from Peter King at (taken from here) – Favre denying rumors.

3. I think if the Fox report on Brett Favre is correct about him advising the Detroit Lions with tips on how to beat the Green Bay Packers, his reputation will be irrevocably tarnished in Wisconsin. Favre “gave the [Lions’] coaching staff like an hour or a 90-minute dissertation, every single thing that the Green Bay Packers do on offense.” I know Favre and former Lions GM Matt Millen are close, and Millen is a great admirer of Favre’s. There’s nothing illegal about this, if it did happen. But it would be seen as an act of betrayal by the Packers and their fans, obviously. Favre texted me before the Jets-Raiders Sunday to call the story “total bs … not true and pretty ridiculous. I’m telling you it’s not true. What the hell is their [Fox’s] problem?” Lions Chief Operating Officer Tom Lewand told me, “Our coaches are perplexed. There was no coaching of our coaching staff [by Favre].” But there was one semi-damning quote out of the Lions’ locker room Sunday. “No comment,” said head coach Rod Marinelli, when asked about the report.

Also read here from for more from Jay Glazer.

I don’t believe Favre’s denial. While my tendency is to wait for more info before rushing to judgment on most matters – I’m not sure I want to wait now. Even if it’s partially true – it just sucks. Who does that? While it’s not illegal as everyone points out, it is bad form and tremendously inconsiderate of former teammates and his many fans, a good # of whom still love the guy. I keep asking myself what could have possibly happened in Favre’s relationship with TT and/or the team that would make him this angry. At this point, absent other info, Favre is just being a jackass.

Sad day for Brother Steve – Zima no more

October 20, 2008

Read the following from’s Newswatch section today. Sad day for Brother Steve. All that Pabst talk is a ruse – Steve has been drinking Zima exclusively for years. (Note: Tom Daykin, author of the bit below didn’t follow proper made-up-word etiquette. He needs to add if you will, as it were, if you like, after malternative. Also, who decided that we need malternatives, as they were, in the first place? Weak.)

MONDAY, Oct. 20, 2008, 10:20 a.m.
By Tom Daykin

MillerCoors drops clear malt drink Zima

MillerCoors LLC said today it has stopped brewing Zima, a sweet, clear malt beverage that was among the first “malternative” drinks.

The new joint venture of Miller Brewing Co. and Coors Brewing Co. dropped production of Zima because of “challenging malternative segment sales and declining consumer interest,” according to a statement by Andy England, chief marketing officer.

“This decision is necessary to reduce complexity when it comes to our brand portfolio, allowing for more focused activity at retail on consumer-preferred brands, especially Sparks,” England wrote. Coors launched Zima in 1994.

Sparks is a citrus-flavored caffeinated malt beverage that was created to appeal to drinkers who mix energy drinks with vodka.

75 cents for…air

October 20, 2008

Today, I went to the gas station to put some air in my tires. When I got to the air dispenser or whatever it’s called, I noticed in large writing: 75 CENTS. Now, I haven’t filled my tires up for years because it’s something that is usually handled by the place that changes my oil. But I don’t remember paying anything for – air! Air, that thing we breathe that is incredibly abundant all around us costs me 75 cents for about 2 minutes! Now I know it’s “fancy air” because it’s compressed or something like that – but still, 75 CENTS!

Is Charles Woodson the present-day Sidney Moncrief?

October 19, 2008

Over the last few years after watching him play and watching and reading many interviews, I have decided that Charles Woodson is sort of becoming like Sidney Moncrief was to me growing up. Moncrief and Lofton were my favorite athletes – but I especially loved Moncrief because he just went about his job, played at an extraodinarily high level, was very underrated (like Woodson especially in the last 2 years) and just called it like it was. Moncrief never complained, but when he did express a concern it was always done in a civil, respectful way – even to officials who were clearly throwing the game. Moncrief was relatively quiet, but when he talked, he talked straight and people listened. Woodson strikes me as a similar sort of character and my guess is that he is a way more influential person in the clubhouse than we know.

More on the Favre story I hope isn’t true

October 19, 2008

Read here from Bedard – more on the odd story re Favre calling Detroit, unsolicited, before Week 2 to give them tips for playing against the Pack (for 1-1.5 hours no less).

If this is true – I’m pissed off. There is no reason to go about trying to sabotage your ex-team. I know Favre’s departure was heinous and he may have some legit beef with the organization – but this isn’t sportsmanlike, to say the least. Again, if it’s true, I just don’t understand it. I would think he’d just want to move on and move past this, but I guess not.