1. there has to be a punch
2. the ref has to find that the punch was “flagrant”
3. the ref has to have seen the entire altercation

Section 2 of Rule 12 reads:
STRIKING, KICKING, OR KNEEING OPPONENT

Article 1 All players are prohibited from:

(a) striking with the fists;

(b) kicking or kneeing; or

(c) striking, swinging, or clubbing to the head, neck, or face with the heel, back, or side of the hand, wrist, arm, elbow, or clasped hands. See 12-2-3.

(d) grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.

Note: It is not necessary for a player to pull the runner completely to the ground in order for the act to be illegal. If his knees are buckled by the action, it is a foul, even if the runner is not pulled completely to the ground.

Penalty: For fouls in a, b, c, and d: Loss of 15 yards. If any of the above acts is judged by the official(s) to be flagrant, the offender may be disqualified as long as the entire action is observed by the official(s).

So in light of what the rule actually says, I say the call to not eject Woodson was a fair call.

Austin I think won’t score much this year. He’ll rack up some yards, but Dez and Witten are going to steal his fame.

I’m thinking Calvin and Manningham plus one more. Possibly Plax. I just don’t know, a lot of uncertainty.

And Floyd over Julio could be smart. Early in the season, gotta let Julio get things rolling.

Lot of potential here, but risk and uncertainty has come with it, especially the first week not knowing where things stand with a lot of players and teams.

I got Breaston real late, and even Wells pretty late too. Had hoped to get Wells going into the draft, glad I was able to. Got lots of sleepers on my team that I wanted, now lets hope they all wake up and let loose.

Thanks for the insight

Andy, or anyone else wanna provide some input?

Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te 1 def 1 k

Stafford/Kolb
Calvin Johnson, Austin, Manningham, Plax, Breaston
Jamaal Charles, Jahvid Best, Beanie Wells, Michael Bush
Witten, Heap
Crosby started
Pack Def started

Stafford and Witten for sure.

Calvin Manningham and ?
I hate my Austin pick. I knew when picking him, its a bad pick. Regret big time. Have had him last 2 years. Plax is playing Dallas whose really thin at CB.. but it’s a gamble for the 1st game. But Austin hasn’t played all pre season so I’m not sure.

RB is tough too. I like the Lions this year (didnt’ plan to end up with 3 players but thats how it ended up haha). JC and Jahvid? or JC and Beanie? Both sound very good.

My other one, I think I drafted a very good team.

1 qb 2 wr 2 rb 1 te 1qb/wr/rb/te 1 def 1 kicker 2 dplayers

I started Rodgers
Have Fitz and Maclin at WR
Have Steven Jackson and Fred Jackson at RB at moment.
Gates at TE
Julio Jones is in my flex right now

Bench I’ve got Ronnie Brown, Vince Young, Sproles, Malcom Floyd and Celek.

Have Philly in Def, Rackers at Kicker, Jerrod Mayo and Derrick Johnson at D.

I think Fred Jackson is a gamble, but I didn’t start Sproles so I haven’t got much choice now. Ronnie Brown, is great depth should Mccoy go down. I think fred could do well, so we will see how it turns out.

Started 3 WRs, but should Floyd be in? Julio is a big gamble. But I like his chances this year, could be a breakout rookie.

I like both my teams (2nd one is 14 team league – I think its better than my 1st team, a 10 team league).

Won one of the leagues last year, hope to do it again!

Thanks!

That said, Starks stood out- he is just so much more physically imposing than Grant. I still think Grant is useful, and in a perfect world the running game is similar to the Giants a few years ago when they used Jacobs to batter defenses (Starks), D Ward to slice defenses (Grant) and Bradshaw to spin them around (Green). Again, thanks to TT for the embarrassment of riches.

I really hope Tramon is okay. He is one of the 4 or 5 most important guys on the team considering how they like to play D. Nice to see Bush respond well when he came in, but time will expose him.

I really think Brees has gotten a huge pass for failing to spike the ball when they got to the 20 with about 30 seconds to go. By opting to rush to the line then dumping it to Sproles they cost themselves at least 3 plays. I guess they still ended up with a great chance to tie it, but I was shocked at that clock management. If I was a saints fan I would have been screaming at the TV.

On another note – the atmosphere in Green Bay last night was absolutely electric. It’s a shame that Green Bay will never host a Super Bowl; last night showed that GB would do a fine job. Anyone know if Jerry Jones was in attendance, taking notes??

Cobb was just amazing on his TD return. We might actually have a return game for the first time in forever.

Defense was a little off. Lots of missed tackles. But NO is a good team. And with Tramon being injured (really hoping it isn’t serious) that didn’t help. I actually think the defense might have been more affected by the shortened off season than the offense. Hopefully Capers will make some adjustments, guys will learn from tonight and we see some improvement next week.

In general though, pretty happy with the win against a good team.