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		<title>By: joshywoshybigfatposhy</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/a-fast-and-furious-free-agent-frenzy/#comment-13597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joshywoshybigfatposhy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[even the free agents that i think &#039;eh, that&#039;d be cool&#039; - would require a salary that would create unbalance compared to other players at that position already on the roster - and would require multi-year deals that would keep us from signing emerging roster talent to their 2nd contract.  

there are exceptions (woodson).  but really, it&#039;s pretty cool to be able to watch all sorts of other teams paying free agents huge bucks for what they did last year, knowing most of them will grossly underperform for the next few years (until another contract year).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even the free agents that i think &#8216;eh, that&#8217;d be cool&#8217; &#8211; would require a salary that would create unbalance compared to other players at that position already on the roster &#8211; and would require multi-year deals that would keep us from signing emerging roster talent to their 2nd contract.  </p>
<p>there are exceptions (woodson).  but really, it&#8217;s pretty cool to be able to watch all sorts of other teams paying free agents huge bucks for what they did last year, knowing most of them will grossly underperform for the next few years (until another contract year).</p>
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		<title>By: joshywoshybigfatposhy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joshywoshybigfatposhy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[never before have i felt like i would be absolutely content if the Packers don&#039;t even pursue a free-agent.  

i feel that way this year.  i know losing jenkins and jones will be difficult, but i&#039;m starting to think this is what it felt like to be a patriots fan (re: the draft and free agency) for the last 7 or 8 years.  

not very many of TT&#039;s picks have been 1st year phenoms, save for matthews, but SO MANY of them are solid players by year 2 or 3, and the trend has continued enough years in a row that i have no reason to doubt that it will continue this year - and we&#039;ll be just fine/incredible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never before have i felt like i would be absolutely content if the Packers don&#8217;t even pursue a free-agent.  </p>
<p>i feel that way this year.  i know losing jenkins and jones will be difficult, but i&#8217;m starting to think this is what it felt like to be a patriots fan (re: the draft and free agency) for the last 7 or 8 years.  </p>
<p>not very many of TT&#8217;s picks have been 1st year phenoms, save for matthews, but SO MANY of them are solid players by year 2 or 3, and the trend has continued enough years in a row that i have no reason to doubt that it will continue this year &#8211; and we&#8217;ll be just fine/incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Tucson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave in Tucson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@DaveK: Bush seems like kind of a marginal player to me.  Yeah, he had that interception in the Super Bowl, but he was also the guy that let Ward get free for the Steelers first TD  (and didn&#039;t they say the INT was something of a fluke because JB was out of position?).

Note even Underwood&#039;s wife says the &#039;domestic abuse&#039; situation has been blown out of proportion (http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110706/PKR01/110706037/Green-Bay-Packers-CB-Brandon-Underwood-s-wife-Brandie-didn-t-want-him-arrested).  Actually I think Underwood&#039;s biggest problem is that he never managed to be anything more than a warm body on special teams last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DaveK: Bush seems like kind of a marginal player to me.  Yeah, he had that interception in the Super Bowl, but he was also the guy that let Ward get free for the Steelers first TD  (and didn&#8217;t they say the INT was something of a fluke because JB was out of position?).</p>
<p>Note even Underwood&#8217;s wife says the &#8216;domestic abuse&#8217; situation has been blown out of proportion (<a href="http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110706/PKR01/110706037/Green-Bay-Packers-CB-Brandon-Underwood-s-wife-Brandie-didn-t-want-him-arrested" rel="nofollow">http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110706/PKR01/110706037/Green-Bay-Packers-CB-Brandon-Underwood-s-wife-Brandie-didn-t-want-him-arrested</a>).  Actually I think Underwood&#8217;s biggest problem is that he never managed to be anything more than a warm body on special teams last year.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaveK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 01:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Underwood just sealed his fate. Williams, Woodson, Shields, and 4th round pick House all have roster spots.  Bush is an amazing ST player and had a great Superbowl and will make the roster. Underwood was going to compete with Bell, Lee, and Gordy for the last roster spot. He&#039;ll now be cut as soon the season opens. I&#039;m sure TT would rather sign an undrafted rookie then deal with him anymore.... prostitution...domestic abuse....no thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underwood just sealed his fate. Williams, Woodson, Shields, and 4th round pick House all have roster spots.  Bush is an amazing ST player and had a great Superbowl and will make the roster. Underwood was going to compete with Bell, Lee, and Gordy for the last roster spot. He&#8217;ll now be cut as soon the season opens. I&#8217;m sure TT would rather sign an undrafted rookie then deal with him anymore&#8230;. prostitution&#8230;domestic abuse&#8230;.no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/05/packers-cornerback-underwood-charged-with-disorderly-conduct/


Incredible. This guy is a tool. He clearly hasn&#039;t learned.

Get rid of this guy, he has no idea how lucky he is to have talent to be an NFL player. If he wants to throw that away, because he thinks he&#039;s more important that the world, fine. It&#039;s a shame to see talent thrown out the window, when if he worked hard everyday, he could be famous and recognized for his skill, not his stupidity.]]></description>
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<p>Incredible. This guy is a tool. He clearly hasn&#8217;t learned.</p>
<p>Get rid of this guy, he has no idea how lucky he is to have talent to be an NFL player. If he wants to throw that away, because he thinks he&#8217;s more important that the world, fine. It&#8217;s a shame to see talent thrown out the window, when if he worked hard everyday, he could be famous and recognized for his skill, not his stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaveK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This from Mike Silver at Yahoo Sports:

&quot;While there will be some fast and furious movement among veteran free agents, many will simply re-up with their current teams and put off testing the market until next year or the year after. Look for a lot of one- and two-year deals at virtually the same pay grade as players and teams search for short-term stability amid the madness.&quot;


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_new_nfl_cba_will_erase_fans_pain_070511]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This from Mike Silver at Yahoo Sports:</p>
<p>&#8220;While there will be some fast and furious movement among veteran free agents, many will simply re-up with their current teams and put off testing the market until next year or the year after. Look for a lot of one- and two-year deals at virtually the same pay grade as players and teams search for short-term stability amid the madness.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_new_nfl_cba_will_erase_fans_pain_070511" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_new_nfl_cba_will_erase_fans_pain_070511</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears that the reports of an deal have been greatly exaggerated.  

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-collective-bargaining-agreement-demaurice-smith-agreement-not-close-062911]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that the reports of an deal have been greatly exaggerated.  </p>
<p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-collective-bargaining-agreement-demaurice-smith-agreement-not-close-062911" rel="nofollow">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-collective-bargaining-agreement-demaurice-smith-agreement-not-close-062911</a></p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaveK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This could just be complete chaos.  Not only would you have the 300+ veteran free agents but you also have the mad-scramble for the un-drafted rookies that usually occurs right after the draft.  I would guess the league will open the league year but not start free agency for 7-10 days. That will give teams some time to sign un-drafted rookies to flesh out their 80-man roster and to re-sign their own players who would otherwise become UFA&#039;s. 

I would guess Crosby and Anthony Smith would be priorities to re-sign as each could be signed at an affordable price. They seem to like Crosby and Smith provides important depth behind Collins. Jackson might also be back once he discovers no one is going to pay him feature back $. I just think he might have more value to the Packers then any other team.  

They would love to have Colledge, Jones, and Jenkins back but they will have more value to other teams who have gaping holes at these important spots then the Packers who have the ability to replace them with younger players on the roster.  

Jones might have the best chance of coming back of the three but still seems unlikely.  He seems like a limited route runner and the Packers were never really able to convert him to anything other then a 3rd target. Just not the most cerebral WR and his routes always seemed fairly limited. If MM couldn&#039;t get Jones to be a more consistent multi-faceted WR then I&#039;m pretty sure Mike Martz or whoever is not going to do much better.  Jones had every chance to be Driver&#039;s replacement but Jordy clearly won that job last year.  I think other teams might shy off a player like that especially given the short off-season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could just be complete chaos.  Not only would you have the 300+ veteran free agents but you also have the mad-scramble for the un-drafted rookies that usually occurs right after the draft.  I would guess the league will open the league year but not start free agency for 7-10 days. That will give teams some time to sign un-drafted rookies to flesh out their 80-man roster and to re-sign their own players who would otherwise become UFA&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I would guess Crosby and Anthony Smith would be priorities to re-sign as each could be signed at an affordable price. They seem to like Crosby and Smith provides important depth behind Collins. Jackson might also be back once he discovers no one is going to pay him feature back $. I just think he might have more value to the Packers then any other team.  </p>
<p>They would love to have Colledge, Jones, and Jenkins back but they will have more value to other teams who have gaping holes at these important spots then the Packers who have the ability to replace them with younger players on the roster.  </p>
<p>Jones might have the best chance of coming back of the three but still seems unlikely.  He seems like a limited route runner and the Packers were never really able to convert him to anything other then a 3rd target. Just not the most cerebral WR and his routes always seemed fairly limited. If MM couldn&#8217;t get Jones to be a more consistent multi-faceted WR then I&#8217;m pretty sure Mike Martz or whoever is not going to do much better.  Jones had every chance to be Driver&#8217;s replacement but Jordy clearly won that job last year.  I think other teams might shy off a player like that especially given the short off-season.</p>
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		<title>By: awhayes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awhayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave - I do think picking up Asomugha would suddenly give our defense huge depth and a range of CB/Safety options  - but the price will be really steep. And Travis, I agree the O-Line should be a priority if we dive into free agency - especially LG. Ray, I checked and Logan Mankins apparently has the franchise tag at the moment for New England so many think he&#039;s not going anywhere this year. Too bad because I very much agree that adding him into the mix would be amazing (though there could be stiff competition on the open market for him with the Bears - Lovie apparently loves the guy).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I do think picking up Asomugha would suddenly give our defense huge depth and a range of CB/Safety options  &#8211; but the price will be really steep. And Travis, I agree the O-Line should be a priority if we dive into free agency &#8211; especially LG. Ray, I checked and Logan Mankins apparently has the franchise tag at the moment for New England so many think he&#8217;s not going anywhere this year. Too bad because I very much agree that adding him into the mix would be amazing (though there could be stiff competition on the open market for him with the Bears &#8211; Lovie apparently loves the guy).</p>
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		<title>By: RayMidge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RayMidge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the FA status of Logan Mankins?  I thought he was going to be unrestricted.  That is one guy who could fill the LG spot and make a huge impact.  Sitton and mankins would be hands down the best G combo in the league and with the young guys coming at T the pack would really be poised for dominance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the FA status of Logan Mankins?  I thought he was going to be unrestricted.  That is one guy who could fill the LG spot and make a huge impact.  Sitton and mankins would be hands down the best G combo in the league and with the young guys coming at T the pack would really be poised for dominance.</p>
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