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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On offense....that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On offense&#8230;.that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually think a solid TE to either compliment Jermichael or serve as a crutch were he to leave or continue to get injured would be fun. the guy from WI would be great to have in the 2 or 3rd round. 

Past that, O Line is where we should be focusing. Depth plus young blood is always good in the trenches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think a solid TE to either compliment Jermichael or serve as a crutch were he to leave or continue to get injured would be fun. the guy from WI would be great to have in the 2 or 3rd round. </p>
<p>Past that, O Line is where we should be focusing. Depth plus young blood is always good in the trenches.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Lang is a question mark at this point.  I&#039;d feel a lot better with some serious competition at that  spot in camp and there are 3-5 first round quality tackles in this draft class.  We ought to have a shot at one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lang is a question mark at this point.  I&#8217;d feel a lot better with some serious competition at that  spot in camp and there are 3-5 first round quality tackles in this draft class.  We ought to have a shot at one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: RayMidge</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, that&#039;s Tandon Doss (not Moss).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that&#8217;s Tandon Doss (not Moss).</p>
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		<title>By: RayMidge</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with everyone about B. Jax . . . great 3rd down back, especially as a blocker.  that should not be overlooked.  I think he wants to see if anybody wants to give him a shot as a starting, every-down type back, but I hope he returns to the Pack.  That said, I too would like to see a smaller, shifty back get a chance in this offense.  Noel Devine from W.Va?

In my opinion everything on this team has to be geared toward getting the most out of Rodgers&#039; prime years.  He is one of the premiere weapons in the NFL and should be for the next 5-10 years.  So my preference is to make sure he is protected and has good weapons to throw to.  My priority would be OL and WR.  I would like to see the best available OL taken in the first round, or even a trade down out of the 1st to get a quality OL in the middle second and a few more picks.  

From what I have read about this draft it seems that TT will be able to find a quality WR in the middle rounds.  Two guys who seem to fit (based on what I read about them) are Tandon Moss from Ind. and Niles Paul from Neb. who may be available in the 3-4 rounds.  All of the WRs TT has drafted are smart guys, good hands, good game speed and good at running routes/making adjustments.  TT is good at drafting WRs precisely because he knows what to look for and what is overrated at that position.  With James likely to get offered starting money elsewhere, this is a good time to bring in another WR.

I think TT will draft a QB in the late rounds, following the Ron Wolf model of always-take-a-QB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyone about B. Jax . . . great 3rd down back, especially as a blocker.  that should not be overlooked.  I think he wants to see if anybody wants to give him a shot as a starting, every-down type back, but I hope he returns to the Pack.  That said, I too would like to see a smaller, shifty back get a chance in this offense.  Noel Devine from W.Va?</p>
<p>In my opinion everything on this team has to be geared toward getting the most out of Rodgers&#8217; prime years.  He is one of the premiere weapons in the NFL and should be for the next 5-10 years.  So my preference is to make sure he is protected and has good weapons to throw to.  My priority would be OL and WR.  I would like to see the best available OL taken in the first round, or even a trade down out of the 1st to get a quality OL in the middle second and a few more picks.  </p>
<p>From what I have read about this draft it seems that TT will be able to find a quality WR in the middle rounds.  Two guys who seem to fit (based on what I read about them) are Tandon Moss from Ind. and Niles Paul from Neb. who may be available in the 3-4 rounds.  All of the WRs TT has drafted are smart guys, good hands, good game speed and good at running routes/making adjustments.  TT is good at drafting WRs precisely because he knows what to look for and what is overrated at that position.  With James likely to get offered starting money elsewhere, this is a good time to bring in another WR.</p>
<p>I think TT will draft a QB in the late rounds, following the Ron Wolf model of always-take-a-QB.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, you don&#039;t think Lang can play RT if Bulaga has to replace Clifton? 

Let&#039;s hope a tackle worthy of round 1 falls to us at #32. It&#039;s almost always a need position. I don&#039;t think there is a team in the league that doesn&#039;t need either a RT or LT. This league needs 64 guys that play RT or LT and there might be 40 that can do it consistently against NFL DE&#039;s and OLBs.  

No one thought Bulaga would fall to us last year and he did. Maybe if some teams trade up to get an over-rated QB and it causes a stud T to fall to #32!!  Or, maybe TT trades up a few spots to nab one that slips into the 20&#039;s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, you don&#8217;t think Lang can play RT if Bulaga has to replace Clifton? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope a tackle worthy of round 1 falls to us at #32. It&#8217;s almost always a need position. I don&#8217;t think there is a team in the league that doesn&#8217;t need either a RT or LT. This league needs 64 guys that play RT or LT and there might be 40 that can do it consistently against NFL DE&#8217;s and OLBs.  </p>
<p>No one thought Bulaga would fall to us last year and he did. Maybe if some teams trade up to get an over-rated QB and it causes a stud T to fall to #32!!  Or, maybe TT trades up a few spots to nab one that slips into the 20&#8242;s</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a real need at tackle.  It is both a short term and long term need.  The duct tape will only hold so long.  Bulga can&#039;t play RT and LT at the same time.   

As for RB.  Jackson is a quality third down back.  He runs  the screen extremely well, pass blocks better than any other back on the roster and can work the draw with some success.  We should keep him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a real need at tackle.  It is both a short term and long term need.  The duct tape will only hold so long.  Bulga can&#8217;t play RT and LT at the same time.   </p>
<p>As for RB.  Jackson is a quality third down back.  He runs  the screen extremely well, pass blocks better than any other back on the roster and can work the draw with some success.  We should keep him.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For good teams, this draft isn&#039;t about this year. It is about the next 2-5 years. So, what are the needs two years from now?  Three years from now? That is almost impossible to answer due to free agency, player development, injury, etc...  For example, look at the draft a year ago when one of the biggest &#039;needs&#039; everyone chirped about was CB. The gnashing of teeth that occurred when TT didn&#039;t draft a CB was deafening. How would be compete against teams like AZ or the Saints without a better CB?!! Tramon developed into a premier CB and TT finds Sam Shields after the draft and he makes an outstanding nickel CB. Not a huge &#039;need&#039; anymore per the fans.  Things change fast on a NFL roster and chasing &#039;needs&#039; in the draft is what bad teams do.  Good stable teams draft the BPA more times then not because needs in the future are so hard to predict. 

That being said, I do think ‘need’ comes into play a number ways for TT. One, when he is picking from a pool of players that all have similar grades especially in the middle rounds then you obviously pick the player at a ‘need’ position or you trade out of that spot.  Second, you might pass on the BPA because he just won’t have a shot at making the roster this year at that position. This plays a bigger role in later rounds. TT probably doesn’t draft a FB in round 6 knowing he isn’t going to push Hall, Kuhn, or Quinn out of a roster spot and it would be a waste of pick.  Third, I think certain positions are at such a premium they may bump BPA down the list.  As TT likes to say, God only made so many 300 lb men who can move fast. Certain positions (LT, DT, CB) are just harder to fill in this league and you might take a lesser player at those positions over taking the BPA.  

As far as this draft and Packer needs, I do not see a real need at any position which is a testament to what TT has done for this roster and how the coaching staff has developed players.  Maybe a first round 3-4 OLB could push Zombo and Jones for a starting spot or maybe first round LG could compete for a starting job if Colledge isn&#039;t back but most likely even a first round OLB or LG spends a good share of next season on the bench. (Like Clay Matthews in year one!) The Packers will need to get better in order to repeat. No doubt about that but that improvement most likely won&#039;t come from rookies regardless of who they draft this year at #32.  Even Raji and Matthews played well but didn&#039;t have a huge impact in year one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For good teams, this draft isn&#8217;t about this year. It is about the next 2-5 years. So, what are the needs two years from now?  Three years from now? That is almost impossible to answer due to free agency, player development, injury, etc&#8230;  For example, look at the draft a year ago when one of the biggest &#8216;needs&#8217; everyone chirped about was CB. The gnashing of teeth that occurred when TT didn&#8217;t draft a CB was deafening. How would be compete against teams like AZ or the Saints without a better CB?!! Tramon developed into a premier CB and TT finds Sam Shields after the draft and he makes an outstanding nickel CB. Not a huge &#8216;need&#8217; anymore per the fans.  Things change fast on a NFL roster and chasing &#8216;needs&#8217; in the draft is what bad teams do.  Good stable teams draft the BPA more times then not because needs in the future are so hard to predict. </p>
<p>That being said, I do think ‘need’ comes into play a number ways for TT. One, when he is picking from a pool of players that all have similar grades especially in the middle rounds then you obviously pick the player at a ‘need’ position or you trade out of that spot.  Second, you might pass on the BPA because he just won’t have a shot at making the roster this year at that position. This plays a bigger role in later rounds. TT probably doesn’t draft a FB in round 6 knowing he isn’t going to push Hall, Kuhn, or Quinn out of a roster spot and it would be a waste of pick.  Third, I think certain positions are at such a premium they may bump BPA down the list.  As TT likes to say, God only made so many 300 lb men who can move fast. Certain positions (LT, DT, CB) are just harder to fill in this league and you might take a lesser player at those positions over taking the BPA.  </p>
<p>As far as this draft and Packer needs, I do not see a real need at any position which is a testament to what TT has done for this roster and how the coaching staff has developed players.  Maybe a first round 3-4 OLB could push Zombo and Jones for a starting spot or maybe first round LG could compete for a starting job if Colledge isn&#8217;t back but most likely even a first round OLB or LG spends a good share of next season on the bench. (Like Clay Matthews in year one!) The Packers will need to get better in order to repeat. No doubt about that but that improvement most likely won&#8217;t come from rookies regardless of who they draft this year at #32.  Even Raji and Matthews played well but didn&#8217;t have a huge impact in year one.</p>
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		<title>By: Daybreak Doppler: First One&#8217;s Always The Hardest &#124; PocketDoppler.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are always things that you could say oh I wish we could get this or that... such as a speedy back. But going after something like that I think does not do much for this team in beneficial ways. We are not meant to be a running team.

We should be able to run the ball fairly well due to the strength of our passing game. We don&#039;t need a top running back, and I think pairing Grant and Starks is more than enough. If we made it through last year with what we had, this would be considered a huge upgrade.

I 100% am against getting rid of Grant. That would be a huge error on TT&#039;s part. The league has turned into a dual RB league. No RB can carry the full load. I love Kuhn, and I really think B Jack does help the team in many ways. Can we keep those 4? I hope. 

B Jack does a great job in a role position, he&#039;s not our main focus/guy.. but like last year showed, you need guys in the background to produce.. and thats how I think of B Jack. We know what we can get from him. Kuhn, is a huge morale factor on this team. He seems like an awesome guy, very fun, very easy going. This team is in a great spirit with him in the game, and I think that did wonders last year. I wanna seem him back.

But in terms of adding a speedy back. No. Sorry I disagree. If anything, use that pick on a speedy wideout. A Deshaun Jackson type player. I&#039;ve always... ALWAYS wanted a Calvin Johnson type WR.. a monster in size and so athletic. But to have a guy who can stretch the field and big play potential added to our offence. I may drool a few times this season.

In the end, if we go offense early, it must be OL, or a fast shifty WR/Huge Physical WR. Nothing else. I agree with whatever ted does, he knows what he&#039;s doing. But if he takes something other than those two on offense early.. I&#039;ll really be hoping he found that gem. 


Draft is around the corner, and I&#039;m pumped. Draft day is a huge day for Packer fans. Whose will be the next gem we pick up. It&#039;s so exciting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are always things that you could say oh I wish we could get this or that&#8230; such as a speedy back. But going after something like that I think does not do much for this team in beneficial ways. We are not meant to be a running team.</p>
<p>We should be able to run the ball fairly well due to the strength of our passing game. We don&#8217;t need a top running back, and I think pairing Grant and Starks is more than enough. If we made it through last year with what we had, this would be considered a huge upgrade.</p>
<p>I 100% am against getting rid of Grant. That would be a huge error on TT&#8217;s part. The league has turned into a dual RB league. No RB can carry the full load. I love Kuhn, and I really think B Jack does help the team in many ways. Can we keep those 4? I hope. </p>
<p>B Jack does a great job in a role position, he&#8217;s not our main focus/guy.. but like last year showed, you need guys in the background to produce.. and thats how I think of B Jack. We know what we can get from him. Kuhn, is a huge morale factor on this team. He seems like an awesome guy, very fun, very easy going. This team is in a great spirit with him in the game, and I think that did wonders last year. I wanna seem him back.</p>
<p>But in terms of adding a speedy back. No. Sorry I disagree. If anything, use that pick on a speedy wideout. A Deshaun Jackson type player. I&#8217;ve always&#8230; ALWAYS wanted a Calvin Johnson type WR.. a monster in size and so athletic. But to have a guy who can stretch the field and big play potential added to our offence. I may drool a few times this season.</p>
<p>In the end, if we go offense early, it must be OL, or a fast shifty WR/Huge Physical WR. Nothing else. I agree with whatever ted does, he knows what he&#8217;s doing. But if he takes something other than those two on offense early.. I&#8217;ll really be hoping he found that gem. </p>
<p>Draft is around the corner, and I&#8217;m pumped. Draft day is a huge day for Packer fans. Whose will be the next gem we pick up. It&#8217;s so exciting.</p>
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