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		<title>By: Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 02:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;....TT believed Favre could not win the big game anymore.&quot; How many big games have TT/MM and AR won the last 3 years?

Favre wasn&#039;t TT&#039;s &quot;guy&quot;. But MM is his &quot;guy&quot; and I don&#039;t see TT dumping one of his own. But how convenient to shunt all the blame to MM. Matty Ice...even Bradford and good grief Sanchez and his buffoon coach Ryan have won really close games this year. Jeez, I think EVERY team in the league has won a game in the last seconds.

You either have it or you don&#039;t. No matter the QB, Packers gave a golden opportunity on Sunday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.TT believed Favre could not win the big game anymore.&#8221; How many big games have TT/MM and AR won the last 3 years?</p>
<p>Favre wasn&#8217;t TT&#8217;s &#8220;guy&#8221;. But MM is his &#8220;guy&#8221; and I don&#8217;t see TT dumping one of his own. But how convenient to shunt all the blame to MM. Matty Ice&#8230;even Bradford and good grief Sanchez and his buffoon coach Ryan have won really close games this year. Jeez, I think EVERY team in the league has won a game in the last seconds.</p>
<p>You either have it or you don&#8217;t. No matter the QB, Packers gave a golden opportunity on Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 00:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow - well said. Agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; well said. Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: RayMidge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The primary thing I can cite in MM&#039;s defense is that the NFL seems to be full of mediocre-to-bad coaches.  Other than Belichick I can&#039;t think of a coach today who I would say alone improves his team&#039;s chance of winning or who&#039;s team doesn&#039;t sometimes make stupid mistakes at crucial times.  Lovie Smith, Andy Reid, Tom Coughlin- these are all guys with pretty good track records of success that can be cited on any given week as having coached poorly and even &quot;cost the team the game&quot;.  The smartest NFL coaches always seem to be the ones without a current job (Gruden comes to mind as a guy who&#039;s reputation since he has become a commentator suddenly far exceeds anything he earned when he was actually a head coach).

Teams succeed in the NFL on a regular basis because of good organizations and front offices; the teams that promote stability, depth, consistency and organizational discipline (i.e. in signing and drafting players that fit their style and are good citizens).  In any given year a team can catch breaks and appear on the upswing (Bengals, 49ers last year) or some bad breaks and appear to be falling apart (Vikes, Cowboys this year), but the teams with good front offices give themselves a chance to win most years.  

I think that Pack is one of those teams with a good organization/front office.  My personal guess is that TT values the stability and the general positive upward trend that has occurred under MM&#039;s watch and that he is not a candidate to be fired this year.  

That said, MM frustrates me as often as everyone else who comments here, but I do think the Pack could do a whole lot worse.  What I would like to see is a new offensive line coach and/or philosphy.  It is the one area of the team that has never shown any improvement since MM got the job.

Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Belichick, Bill Parcells- these guys are/were franchise makers.  Dan Reeves, Dick Vermiel, Marty Schottenheimer, Norv Turner, Mike Holmgren- these types of guys seem to be able to improve a team but aren&#039;t miracle workers.  Everyone else seems to fall into the vast majority of NFL coaches including MM- they can succeed in a good program and fail in a bad one.  MM isn&#039;t worth firing, but he isn&#039;t anything special.  we could do worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary thing I can cite in MM&#8217;s defense is that the NFL seems to be full of mediocre-to-bad coaches.  Other than Belichick I can&#8217;t think of a coach today who I would say alone improves his team&#8217;s chance of winning or who&#8217;s team doesn&#8217;t sometimes make stupid mistakes at crucial times.  Lovie Smith, Andy Reid, Tom Coughlin- these are all guys with pretty good track records of success that can be cited on any given week as having coached poorly and even &#8220;cost the team the game&#8221;.  The smartest NFL coaches always seem to be the ones without a current job (Gruden comes to mind as a guy who&#8217;s reputation since he has become a commentator suddenly far exceeds anything he earned when he was actually a head coach).</p>
<p>Teams succeed in the NFL on a regular basis because of good organizations and front offices; the teams that promote stability, depth, consistency and organizational discipline (i.e. in signing and drafting players that fit their style and are good citizens).  In any given year a team can catch breaks and appear on the upswing (Bengals, 49ers last year) or some bad breaks and appear to be falling apart (Vikes, Cowboys this year), but the teams with good front offices give themselves a chance to win most years.  </p>
<p>I think that Pack is one of those teams with a good organization/front office.  My personal guess is that TT values the stability and the general positive upward trend that has occurred under MM&#8217;s watch and that he is not a candidate to be fired this year.  </p>
<p>That said, MM frustrates me as often as everyone else who comments here, but I do think the Pack could do a whole lot worse.  What I would like to see is a new offensive line coach and/or philosphy.  It is the one area of the team that has never shown any improvement since MM got the job.</p>
<p>Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Belichick, Bill Parcells- these guys are/were franchise makers.  Dan Reeves, Dick Vermiel, Marty Schottenheimer, Norv Turner, Mike Holmgren- these types of guys seem to be able to improve a team but aren&#8217;t miracle workers.  Everyone else seems to fall into the vast majority of NFL coaches including MM- they can succeed in a good program and fail in a bad one.  MM isn&#8217;t worth firing, but he isn&#8217;t anything special.  we could do worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think youre right Andy. If GB loses against NY at home, I think MM is done after this year. The big game test is a good one, and we have one every week for the next six weeks (if we keep winning). 

Question is, who then? I agree Capers should stay on D. The one intriguing guy might be Jon Gruden. Think about it, started with the Packers, moved up the ranks, won a super bowl, and now may be available. Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think youre right Andy. If GB loses against NY at home, I think MM is done after this year. The big game test is a good one, and we have one every week for the next six weeks (if we keep winning). </p>
<p>Question is, who then? I agree Capers should stay on D. The one intriguing guy might be Jon Gruden. Think about it, started with the Packers, moved up the ranks, won a super bowl, and now may be available. Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He did coach two expansion teams which skews the record a bit. But, his last season in Carolina was 4-12 and his last season in Houston was 2-14.  To get another shot at being HC he would need an amazing OC to run the offense. Someone like MM would be ideal but that just ain&#039;t going to happen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did coach two expansion teams which skews the record a bit. But, his last season in Carolina was 4-12 and his last season in Houston was 2-14.  To get another shot at being HC he would need an amazing OC to run the offense. Someone like MM would be ideal but that just ain&#8217;t going to happen!</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You fire MM and that entire staff gets shuffled. No guarantee you get to keep Capers after you pass him over for head coach regardless of his contract. It&#039;s possible that Capers is happy and content coaching the Packer defense and just wants to put down a legacy in Green Bay.  That would be ideal.  But, he also could be very unhappy being the DC for a new head coach. I guess TT would have a feel for that before making a change.  But, let us not get ahead of ourselves.  Let&#039;s hope they win the next two and do some damage in the playoffs.  This defense will keep them in any game.  Let&#039;s hope Rodgers is back and let&#039;s see if MM and his offense can make a run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fire MM and that entire staff gets shuffled. No guarantee you get to keep Capers after you pass him over for head coach regardless of his contract. It&#8217;s possible that Capers is happy and content coaching the Packer defense and just wants to put down a legacy in Green Bay.  That would be ideal.  But, he also could be very unhappy being the DC for a new head coach. I guess TT would have a feel for that before making a change.  But, let us not get ahead of ourselves.  Let&#8217;s hope they win the next two and do some damage in the playoffs.  This defense will keep them in any game.  Let&#8217;s hope Rodgers is back and let&#8217;s see if MM and his offense can make a run.</p>
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		<title>By: Schaefer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa BAD IDEA...Capers head coaching record is 48 - 80. Remember the last time GB promoted a good Def Coord to HC?  Does Ray Rhodes ring a bell.  

An argument against Capers as the HC is the Peter Principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle) taken at it&#039;s simplest ...he should stay at his highest level of competency, Def Coord,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa BAD IDEA&#8230;Capers head coaching record is 48 &#8211; 80. Remember the last time GB promoted a good Def Coord to HC?  Does Ray Rhodes ring a bell.  </p>
<p>An argument against Capers as the HC is the Peter Principle (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle</a>) taken at it&#8217;s simplest &#8230;he should stay at his highest level of competency, Def Coord,</p>
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		<title>By: Ron LC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron LC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Rodgers can&#039;t start on Sunday, they should hold him out of the Bear game.  The Bear D is aggressive to the point of being Dirty and they get away with it.  Let him m ake a complete recovery over the off-season.

Paraphrase from MM this am:

&quot;There was no confussion on the last play.  It was well thoughout and only the sack stopped it.&quot;

MM wil never change, ever, ever ,ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Rodgers can&#8217;t start on Sunday, they should hold him out of the Bear game.  The Bear D is aggressive to the point of being Dirty and they get away with it.  Let him m ake a complete recovery over the off-season.</p>
<p>Paraphrase from MM this am:</p>
<p>&#8220;There was no confussion on the last play.  It was well thoughout and only the sack stopped it.&#8221;</p>
<p>MM wil never change, ever, ever ,ever.</p>
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		<title>By: awhayes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lots of good thoughts here. Cindy - interesting scoop info on Rodgers. My concern about Rodgers is that, even though he&#039;s competitive, he&#039;s way too smart to put his future in jeopardy by coming back too soon. We could really use him this weekend.

As far as whether TT has the stones to can MM - I agree Joe, I think he does. In fact, to this day, I still believe that one of the main reasons he was not too concerned re Favre&#039;s departure is that he absolutely did not believe Favre could win the big game anymore. MM is quickly establishing his own rep as a guy who can&#039;t win the big game. (In fact, this week&#039;s game will be huge - a loss in this one and my guess is MM may get canned.) 

Travis - very much have the same concern about possibly promoting Capers. He&#039;s very good at his craft - some guys can rise up and be good head coaches, but I just think he ought to remain up there behind the glass calling defensive plays. What we need is a game manager - the kind of guy who is sharp enough to follow the game and make instant, quality decisions...like Mike Tomlin or Sean Payton or Bill Belichick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots of good thoughts here. Cindy &#8211; interesting scoop info on Rodgers. My concern about Rodgers is that, even though he&#8217;s competitive, he&#8217;s way too smart to put his future in jeopardy by coming back too soon. We could really use him this weekend.</p>
<p>As far as whether TT has the stones to can MM &#8211; I agree Joe, I think he does. In fact, to this day, I still believe that one of the main reasons he was not too concerned re Favre&#8217;s departure is that he absolutely did not believe Favre could win the big game anymore. MM is quickly establishing his own rep as a guy who can&#8217;t win the big game. (In fact, this week&#8217;s game will be huge &#8211; a loss in this one and my guess is MM may get canned.) </p>
<p>Travis &#8211; very much have the same concern about possibly promoting Capers. He&#8217;s very good at his craft &#8211; some guys can rise up and be good head coaches, but I just think he ought to remain up there behind the glass calling defensive plays. What we need is a game manager &#8211; the kind of guy who is sharp enough to follow the game and make instant, quality decisions&#8230;like Mike Tomlin or Sean Payton or Bill Belichick.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didnt mind that set of plays. I did mind the second timeout and lack of calling two plays for Flynn after the final timeout. (someone else pointed that out too, great comment) That was pretty bad. 

I know LSU isn&#039;t a great school, and education in general in the south is pretty bad, but not thinking he can remember two plays? Now come on MM....

I think my only other gripe was that on the last play Flynn didnt get a pass into the endzone. At least to give them a chance. That sucked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt mind that set of plays. I did mind the second timeout and lack of calling two plays for Flynn after the final timeout. (someone else pointed that out too, great comment) That was pretty bad. </p>
<p>I know LSU isn&#8217;t a great school, and education in general in the south is pretty bad, but not thinking he can remember two plays? Now come on MM&#8230;.</p>
<p>I think my only other gripe was that on the last play Flynn didnt get a pass into the endzone. At least to give them a chance. That sucked.</p>
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