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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/check-this-out-from-an-angry-bears-fan/#comment-12215</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Packer Pukes are just pissed off that it was the Bears that knocked out Favre once and for all. They had relished the opportunity to see him knocked silly, laying on the turf of Lambeau Field, under the weight of one of their fat assed nose tackles, while the Packer Pukes screamed for blood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Packer Pukes are just pissed off that it was the Bears that knocked out Favre once and for all. They had relished the opportunity to see him knocked silly, laying on the turf of Lambeau Field, under the weight of one of their fat assed nose tackles, while the Packer Pukes screamed for blood.</p>
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		<title>By: 56coop</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[56coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, Da Bears won.  18 penalties--McMuffin needs to fix this but can&#039;t.  Been going on way too long.  How many years have the Pack been one of the most penalized teams?  Thought this was fixed after the 1st 2 weeks.  Get into a BIG game and what happens?  Implosion.  There is a pattern here.  

Where is that &quot;high powered&quot; offense?  MM blows big games.  Period.

Please do not lose to Detroit next week.   PLEASE.

TP &amp; Bearsfan--wouldn&#039;t gloat too loudly boys.  It&#039;s only week 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, Da Bears won.  18 penalties&#8211;McMuffin needs to fix this but can&#8217;t.  Been going on way too long.  How many years have the Pack been one of the most penalized teams?  Thought this was fixed after the 1st 2 weeks.  Get into a BIG game and what happens?  Implosion.  There is a pattern here.  </p>
<p>Where is that &#8220;high powered&#8221; offense?  MM blows big games.  Period.</p>
<p>Please do not lose to Detroit next week.   PLEASE.</p>
<p>TP &amp; Bearsfan&#8211;wouldn&#8217;t gloat too loudly boys.  It&#8217;s only week 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, Mr. Paine, legend has the Cowboys as America&#039;s Team. The Plaine Truth is that Packerfans believe their guys are God&#039;s Team endowed with the requisite deified rights. They were not supposed to lose a game in 2010. To arrive unscathed at the pinnacle. To raise the trophy in Texas. You must be understanding of their agony, chagrin and outrage that their team bowed unceremoniously to the Bears and played like lumpkins in the national spotlight and must conjure up all manner of conspiracies to explain the event. The word hubris comes to mind.

Btw, I&#039;ve visited your lovely cottage many times..and your monument. Um..er..I do hope that your brain is in fact where it&#039;s supposed to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Mr. Paine, legend has the Cowboys as America&#8217;s Team. The Plaine Truth is that Packerfans believe their guys are God&#8217;s Team endowed with the requisite deified rights. They were not supposed to lose a game in 2010. To arrive unscathed at the pinnacle. To raise the trophy in Texas. You must be understanding of their agony, chagrin and outrage that their team bowed unceremoniously to the Bears and played like lumpkins in the national spotlight and must conjure up all manner of conspiracies to explain the event. The word hubris comes to mind.</p>
<p>Btw, I&#8217;ve visited your lovely cottage many times..and your monument. Um..er..I do hope that your brain is in fact where it&#8217;s supposed to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Bearfan3454</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bearfan3454]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree completly TP. The packer fans are not capable at looking at that game objectivly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completly TP. The packer fans are not capable at looking at that game objectivly.</p>
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		<title>By: awhayes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awhayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TP - Nice Common Sense reference - but you&#039;re not coming at us with much Common Sense when you state that the Packers are &quot;grossly overrated&quot; and that Packer fans are being &quot;ridiculous for their refusal to accept reality&quot;. Last year, we went to the playoffs, barely lost a tough game on the road, had one of the top QBs in the NFL, had an explosive offense and had a defense that either led the NFL or was in the top 5 in key areas. And this year, we haven&#039;t even played that well so far, yet we&#039;ve beaten Philly on the road, crushed Buffalo and only lost to your Bears...on the road. I think the expectations many Packer fans (and others) have this year are in line with both the positive experience of the team last year and the fact that many of the positive factors that contributed to that success remain in place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP &#8211; Nice Common Sense reference &#8211; but you&#8217;re not coming at us with much Common Sense when you state that the Packers are &#8220;grossly overrated&#8221; and that Packer fans are being &#8220;ridiculous for their refusal to accept reality&#8221;. Last year, we went to the playoffs, barely lost a tough game on the road, had one of the top QBs in the NFL, had an explosive offense and had a defense that either led the NFL or was in the top 5 in key areas. And this year, we haven&#8217;t even played that well so far, yet we&#8217;ve beaten Philly on the road, crushed Buffalo and only lost to your Bears&#8230;on the road. I think the expectations many Packer fans (and others) have this year are in line with both the positive experience of the team last year and the fact that many of the positive factors that contributed to that success remain in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Angry?  Why would any Bear fan be angry this week (other than that turd who got into it with Collins)?  No, just someone with a clear perspective who felt like injecting a dose of Common Sense into your little Packer party. 

The whole point of my commentary was to state the Packer fans are being ridiculous with their refusal to accept reality.  On my side, I can look at the Bears and realize that despite having the best record in the conference, that they are maybe a wild-card caliber team at best.  I hope for more, and am thrilled with what I&#039;ve gotten so far, but I recognize there are issues that will prevent the team from going very far (o-line, secondary, questionable QB play, etc).  Unfortunately the Packer fans are a bit too drunk on their green and gold Kool-Aid to do the same with their team.  Sure, they were the pre-season favorite of many national &quot;experts&quot;.  But so were the Vikings and Cowboys -- would anyone reading this not say that the Vikes or Cowboys were over-rated?  Of course not.  But you cannot look in the mirror and see the same with your own team.  The Packers are good but not great. In all honesty, I&#039;d say they are better overall than the Bears and will still likely win the division.  But they are definitely susceptible and flawed, and it was the Bears that beat them on Monday night (not the refs, and not the Packers). 

Addressing a few of the responses: 
  - yes, the offensive line is terrible.  Led the league in sacks last year and the tackles are even older this year. Even Jon Gruden commented about it, and for him to say anything negative about anyone -- that is significant. 
-  I didn&#039;t say the Packers are terrible at everything. Just o-line, secondary, rushing, special teams and coaching.  You still have your passing offense and rush defense.  And I think secondary will improve as the rookies get more experience.  And again, I&#039;m not saying the Bears are better. 
-  The comments I read by Woodson were more about how that play is always called in the offense&#039;s favor, not so much on the Bennett-Burnett play specifically (although he may have had other comments beyond what I read on espn.com).   Perhaps the rule is wrong - but the way it is written that WAS clearly interference.  I guarantee if it was as bad as the Packer fans are saying, there would be an uproar around the league like with the Calvin Johnson play in week 1.  Instead, hard to even find a mention of it anywhere but Packer sites (which is how I found your site in the first place).  I found one small post on espn, and it said the call was correct. 
-  there is a reason no one but Packer fans are discussing the &quot;first Collins  interception&quot;.  He didn&#039;t hang on to it.  Seemed pretty clear once ESPN showed the replay from the endzone angle. And I&#039;m pretty sure it was within 2 minutes so would have been reviewed if even close (although don&#039;t quote me on the 2 minutes part)
- If you honestly think the Packers&#039; &quot;implosion&quot; had nothing to do with the Bears, you&#039;re just not paying attention. Most of the penalties were from the o-line trying to handle Peppers.  You can&#039;t say the Bears had nothing to do with it.  

And one more point. Lot of comments (here and elsewhere) from Packer fans about how the Bears were lucky to win in week 1.  I&#039;ll concede that Calvin Johnson call at the end was a crock.  But the Bears dominated the game in yards and time of possession, and the only reason the Lions were even in a position to win was the Bears many costly mental mistakes.  Does that sound familiar?   Certainly seems hypocritical to say the Bears deserved to lose that game despite dominating, but the Packers deserved to win this game because they dominated.  My opinion - Bears were lucky to win week 1, deserved to win week 3.  But if you feel the opposite that&#039;s your prerogative.  But you can&#039;t have it both ways - either Team A dominated and deserved to win, or Team B hung around and took advantage when the opportunity presented itself.   Not both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry?  Why would any Bear fan be angry this week (other than that turd who got into it with Collins)?  No, just someone with a clear perspective who felt like injecting a dose of Common Sense into your little Packer party. </p>
<p>The whole point of my commentary was to state the Packer fans are being ridiculous with their refusal to accept reality.  On my side, I can look at the Bears and realize that despite having the best record in the conference, that they are maybe a wild-card caliber team at best.  I hope for more, and am thrilled with what I&#8217;ve gotten so far, but I recognize there are issues that will prevent the team from going very far (o-line, secondary, questionable QB play, etc).  Unfortunately the Packer fans are a bit too drunk on their green and gold Kool-Aid to do the same with their team.  Sure, they were the pre-season favorite of many national &#8220;experts&#8221;.  But so were the Vikings and Cowboys &#8212; would anyone reading this not say that the Vikes or Cowboys were over-rated?  Of course not.  But you cannot look in the mirror and see the same with your own team.  The Packers are good but not great. In all honesty, I&#8217;d say they are better overall than the Bears and will still likely win the division.  But they are definitely susceptible and flawed, and it was the Bears that beat them on Monday night (not the refs, and not the Packers). </p>
<p>Addressing a few of the responses:<br />
  &#8211; yes, the offensive line is terrible.  Led the league in sacks last year and the tackles are even older this year. Even Jon Gruden commented about it, and for him to say anything negative about anyone &#8212; that is significant.<br />
-  I didn&#8217;t say the Packers are terrible at everything. Just o-line, secondary, rushing, special teams and coaching.  You still have your passing offense and rush defense.  And I think secondary will improve as the rookies get more experience.  And again, I&#8217;m not saying the Bears are better.<br />
-  The comments I read by Woodson were more about how that play is always called in the offense&#8217;s favor, not so much on the Bennett-Burnett play specifically (although he may have had other comments beyond what I read on espn.com).   Perhaps the rule is wrong &#8211; but the way it is written that WAS clearly interference.  I guarantee if it was as bad as the Packer fans are saying, there would be an uproar around the league like with the Calvin Johnson play in week 1.  Instead, hard to even find a mention of it anywhere but Packer sites (which is how I found your site in the first place).  I found one small post on espn, and it said the call was correct.<br />
-  there is a reason no one but Packer fans are discussing the &#8220;first Collins  interception&#8221;.  He didn&#8217;t hang on to it.  Seemed pretty clear once ESPN showed the replay from the endzone angle. And I&#8217;m pretty sure it was within 2 minutes so would have been reviewed if even close (although don&#8217;t quote me on the 2 minutes part)<br />
- If you honestly think the Packers&#8217; &#8220;implosion&#8221; had nothing to do with the Bears, you&#8217;re just not paying attention. Most of the penalties were from the o-line trying to handle Peppers.  You can&#8217;t say the Bears had nothing to do with it.  </p>
<p>And one more point. Lot of comments (here and elsewhere) from Packer fans about how the Bears were lucky to win in week 1.  I&#8217;ll concede that Calvin Johnson call at the end was a crock.  But the Bears dominated the game in yards and time of possession, and the only reason the Lions were even in a position to win was the Bears many costly mental mistakes.  Does that sound familiar?   Certainly seems hypocritical to say the Bears deserved to lose that game despite dominating, but the Packers deserved to win this game because they dominated.  My opinion &#8211; Bears were lucky to win week 1, deserved to win week 3.  But if you feel the opposite that&#8217;s your prerogative.  But you can&#8217;t have it both ways &#8211; either Team A dominated and deserved to win, or Team B hung around and took advantage when the opportunity presented itself.   Not both.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not going to get into the specifics of the game and each penalty but the reality is this:

The Bears did not beat the Packers.  Neither did the refs.  The Packers imploded and the Bears happened to be there when it happened.  That&#039;s what happened on Monday.  Nothing more; nothing less.  Via our penalties we gave the Bears 158 yards and nullified two interceptions and a touchdown.  With all of this help, the Bears barely won the game.  That is not a good team.  Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to get into the specifics of the game and each penalty but the reality is this:</p>
<p>The Bears did not beat the Packers.  Neither did the refs.  The Packers imploded and the Bears happened to be there when it happened.  That&#8217;s what happened on Monday.  Nothing more; nothing less.  Via our penalties we gave the Bears 158 yards and nullified two interceptions and a touchdown.  With all of this help, the Bears barely won the game.  That is not a good team.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Rogders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Rogders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice burn!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice burn!!</p>
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		<title>By: Malachi DeLorenzo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malachi DeLorenzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember week one where the Bears lost to the Lions? Oh yeah, I forgot, the refs gave them that one too... 3-0 and the bears are the best team in the league yet still somehow 4 pt underdogs next week

It&#039;s a long season]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember week one where the Bears lost to the Lions? Oh yeah, I forgot, the refs gave them that one too&#8230; 3-0 and the bears are the best team in the league yet still somehow 4 pt underdogs next week</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a long season</p>
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		<title>By: Bearfan3454</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bearfan3454]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s amazing that these arrogant Packer fans think they can analyze a football game any better than one who is not. There was no conspracy by the refs. The Packers were responsible for all of the penalties called against them. I know it makes you feel better to think otherwise. What we learned about the Packers last might is that they are an average team at best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing that these arrogant Packer fans think they can analyze a football game any better than one who is not. There was no conspracy by the refs. The Packers were responsible for all of the penalties called against them. I know it makes you feel better to think otherwise. What we learned about the Packers last might is that they are an average team at best.</p>
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