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		<title>By: Packer fever at si.com as well&#8230; &#171; packergeeks</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Packer fever at si.com as well&#8230; &#171; packergeeks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that a number of experts have come around to my way of thinking on the Vikings now. (Read here for more info on why I think the Vikes may have been better off without Favre this year.) I know a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that a number of experts have come around to my way of thinking on the Vikings now. (Read here for more info on why I think the Vikes may have been better off without Favre this year.) I know a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CindyV</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10032</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This from Pro Football Talk today:

We continue to be amazed by those who have suggested that Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune and Jay Glazer of FOX somehow made up the fact that Brett Favre texted a number of his teammates about his intent to retire.

Favre didn&#039;t help matters when he lied about the texts, essentially calling the teammates that publicly confirmed the news liars too.

Six days after the drama started, Glazer uncovers what really happened in an excellent piece for FOX.  (We want more of these, Jay.)   Favre indeed sent texts to many teammates, convincingly telling them he was done because of health reasons.

That inspired a &quot;two-pronged&quot; attack by the Vikings organization and players to beg, plead, and cajole Favre into reconsidering.  The Vikings offered Favre a &quot;much more lucrative package&quot; to entice him back.  (Glazer mentions $20 million.)

It sounds like the love Vikings teammates showed may have meant more to Favre.  According to Glazer, not many Packers, if any, asked him to reconsider his retirement.  The Jets seemed happy he was gone.  

&quot;He&#039;s torn,&quot; said one Vikings player. &quot;I think in his mind he was done, but loves the guys in this locker room and doesn&#039;t want to let them down. He didn&#039;t want to [come back], but I don&#039;t think he can say no to these guys. He&#039;s tortured.&quot;

It seems faintly ridiculous, not to mention melodramatic, that Favre would need so much ego massaging. But that doesn&#039;t make the reporting any less true. 

I fully expect Favre to play, just like many of you.  But it&#039;s hardly surprising that Favre doesn&#039;t know himself yet; that he has to feel wanted, that he&#039;s struggling with the decision every step of the way.

If Brett Favre could stop himself from becoming a parody of Brett Favre, he probably would have by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This from Pro Football Talk today:</p>
<p>We continue to be amazed by those who have suggested that Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune and Jay Glazer of FOX somehow made up the fact that Brett Favre texted a number of his teammates about his intent to retire.</p>
<p>Favre didn&#8217;t help matters when he lied about the texts, essentially calling the teammates that publicly confirmed the news liars too.</p>
<p>Six days after the drama started, Glazer uncovers what really happened in an excellent piece for FOX.  (We want more of these, Jay.)   Favre indeed sent texts to many teammates, convincingly telling them he was done because of health reasons.</p>
<p>That inspired a &#8220;two-pronged&#8221; attack by the Vikings organization and players to beg, plead, and cajole Favre into reconsidering.  The Vikings offered Favre a &#8220;much more lucrative package&#8221; to entice him back.  (Glazer mentions $20 million.)</p>
<p>It sounds like the love Vikings teammates showed may have meant more to Favre.  According to Glazer, not many Packers, if any, asked him to reconsider his retirement.  The Jets seemed happy he was gone.  </p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s torn,&#8221; said one Vikings player. &#8220;I think in his mind he was done, but loves the guys in this locker room and doesn&#8217;t want to let them down. He didn&#8217;t want to [come back], but I don&#8217;t think he can say no to these guys. He&#8217;s tortured.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems faintly ridiculous, not to mention melodramatic, that Favre would need so much ego massaging. But that doesn&#8217;t make the reporting any less true. </p>
<p>I fully expect Favre to play, just like many of you.  But it&#8217;s hardly surprising that Favre doesn&#8217;t know himself yet; that he has to feel wanted, that he&#8217;s struggling with the decision every step of the way.</p>
<p>If Brett Favre could stop himself from becoming a parody of Brett Favre, he probably would have by now.</p>
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		<title>By: CindyV</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CindyV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[www.whatifsports.com did a 2010 NFL playoff projection based on the statistical outputs of players and team from the 2009 season.  According to them the Packers take the NFC North Divison with an 13-3 record while the Viking (with Favre) are 11-5.  The Bears finish 5-11 (so long Lovie) and the Lions at 2-14 (again).

For Divisonal playoff simulations, the Packers beat Carolina with Rodgers throwing 20 of 33 for 257 yds and 2 TDs.  The Cowboys beat the Saints.

For the NFC Championship, the Packers beat the Cowboys with Ryan Grant running for 85 yds and catching a 15 yd. TD.

And their Superbowl simulation calls for the Pack to beat the Chargers.  Rodgers is game MVP throwing 22 of 35 for 300 yds. and 2 TDs.

I hope the computer is right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.whatifsports.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatifsports.com</a> did a 2010 NFL playoff projection based on the statistical outputs of players and team from the 2009 season.  According to them the Packers take the NFC North Divison with an 13-3 record while the Viking (with Favre) are 11-5.  The Bears finish 5-11 (so long Lovie) and the Lions at 2-14 (again).</p>
<p>For Divisonal playoff simulations, the Packers beat Carolina with Rodgers throwing 20 of 33 for 257 yds and 2 TDs.  The Cowboys beat the Saints.</p>
<p>For the NFC Championship, the Packers beat the Cowboys with Ryan Grant running for 85 yds and catching a 15 yd. TD.</p>
<p>And their Superbowl simulation calls for the Pack to beat the Chargers.  Rodgers is game MVP throwing 22 of 35 for 300 yds. and 2 TDs.</p>
<p>I hope the computer is right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron LC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron LC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miraculous recovery - Zigster found an additional $7million in a Bahamaian bank accout he forgot about.  They should juct change  the name of August to Farve and get it over with.

I&#039;m serious fed up with crap.  I pledge never to respod to a Favre post again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miraculous recovery &#8211; Zigster found an additional $7million in a Bahamaian bank accout he forgot about.  They should juct change  the name of August to Farve and get it over with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious fed up with crap.  I pledge never to respod to a Favre post again!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like TT or not, you know he is sitting somewhere watching ESPN all day grinning like an idiot over the hoopla this is creating around Vikings camp. 

Meanwhile, the Packers just locked up their future on the O-line, and camp could not be quieter....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like TT or not, you know he is sitting somewhere watching ESPN all day grinning like an idiot over the hoopla this is creating around Vikings camp. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the Packers just locked up their future on the O-line, and camp could not be quieter&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: CindyV</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CindyV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a column from Jim Souhan that most Packer fans will love. The takeaway lines: 

&quot;If we dare take him seriously amid his latest threats of retirement -- and history tells us we should not -- he will have devastated a franchise that treated him with deference and reverence and betrayed the trust of his teammates and coaches.

He will have done so in just the manner Packers fans predicted, by throwing an inexplicable, championship-losing interception on his final play in purple, then turning his decision on retirement into a sad serial of self-indulgence.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a column from Jim Souhan that most Packer fans will love. The takeaway lines: </p>
<p>&#8220;If we dare take him seriously amid his latest threats of retirement &#8212; and history tells us we should not &#8212; he will have devastated a franchise that treated him with deference and reverence and betrayed the trust of his teammates and coaches.</p>
<p>He will have done so in just the manner Packers fans predicted, by throwing an inexplicable, championship-losing interception on his final play in purple, then turning his decision on retirement into a sad serial of self-indulgence.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: awhayes</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[awhayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trav - saw that. Brother Steve didn&#039;t forewarn me and I of course just opened it right up. I&#039;m reluctant to link to it too, but you&#039;re right re the legacy...wow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trav &#8211; saw that. Brother Steve didn&#8217;t forewarn me and I of course just opened it right up. I&#8217;m reluctant to link to it too, but you&#8217;re right re the legacy&#8230;wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Trav</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/will-favre-retirement-help-the-vikings/#comment-10003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unbelieveable story on Deadspin.com.  This is getting interesting...  I won&#039;t link to it as the title is NSFW, but it is their main post this AM.  The legacy continues to get tarnished as this drags on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelieveable story on Deadspin.com.  This is getting interesting&#8230;  I won&#8217;t link to it as the title is NSFW, but it is their main post this AM.  The legacy continues to get tarnished as this drags on.</p>
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		<title>By: RayMidge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RayMidge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with all of what DaveK says and would also add that the negative psychological impact on Minny ought to be huge.  Favre gave those young recievers a lot of confidence and the entire team had to be coming into this year looking at the SB in large part because of Favre and there has to be a letdown from thinking that and ending up with T. Jackson as your QB instead.   Most NFL games come down to a handful of plays either being executed or not- with Favre Minny had to feel that they would be on the right side of that equation- Favre was the positive difference on many of those plays last year (the last play of the year being the huge exception).  I don&#039;t expect them to just collapse or go away but they are a worse team without Favre and every player on Minny must know that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of what DaveK says and would also add that the negative psychological impact on Minny ought to be huge.  Favre gave those young recievers a lot of confidence and the entire team had to be coming into this year looking at the SB in large part because of Favre and there has to be a letdown from thinking that and ending up with T. Jackson as your QB instead.   Most NFL games come down to a handful of plays either being executed or not- with Favre Minny had to feel that they would be on the right side of that equation- Favre was the positive difference on many of those plays last year (the last play of the year being the huge exception).  I don&#8217;t expect them to just collapse or go away but they are a worse team without Favre and every player on Minny must know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, their special teams was actually pretty good last year. Not great at coverage, but Percy Harvin was a force, and their punter and kicker were both very solid. 

Agree with the win total though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, their special teams was actually pretty good last year. Not great at coverage, but Percy Harvin was a force, and their punter and kicker were both very solid. </p>
<p>Agree with the win total though.</p>
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