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		<title>By: Kozak</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/game-thoughts-pack-vs-balt/#comment-8450</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, during the first 8 games we had lots of sacks AND holding. Maybe they are just learning to make the holds more effective? (;-O]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, during the first 8 games we had lots of sacks AND holding. Maybe they are just learning to make the holds more effective? (;-O</p>
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		<title>By: Packers Daily Links 12.9.09 - Railbird Central</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/game-thoughts-pack-vs-balt/#comment-8446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Packers Daily Links 12.9.09 - Railbird Central]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on 1st and goal from the 1 against Willis McGahee for a 2 yard loss was the play of the game,&quot; writes Hayes. &quot;Yes, the ensuing pick by Tramon was huge too, but it was Woodson’s unreal tackle that set [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on 1st and goal from the 1 against Willis McGahee for a 2 yard loss was the play of the game,&quot; writes Hayes. &quot;Yes, the ensuing pick by Tramon was huge too, but it was Woodson’s unreal tackle that set [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nik</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the season ended today, the Packers would play the Cardinals in Arizona for consecutive weeks. It would be interesting to see how such a game would be diagramed by both sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the season ended today, the Packers would play the Cardinals in Arizona for consecutive weeks. It would be interesting to see how such a game would be diagramed by both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: TheChoj</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/game-thoughts-pack-vs-balt/#comment-8442</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[did anybody else catch the postgame on SportsCenter where the crowd that was leftover started chanting &quot;Jerry Rice Fumbled&quot; at Steve Young and then Matt Millen joined in? Quite possibly the funniest thing I&#039;ve seen in a long time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did anybody else catch the postgame on SportsCenter where the crowd that was leftover started chanting &#8220;Jerry Rice Fumbled&#8221; at Steve Young and then Matt Millen joined in? Quite possibly the funniest thing I&#8217;ve seen in a long time!</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/game-thoughts-pack-vs-balt/#comment-8433</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also think that offensive players only meeting after the loss to the Bucs has some impact on this turn around also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that offensive players only meeting after the loss to the Bucs has some impact on this turn around also.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave In Tucson</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/game-thoughts-pack-vs-balt/#comment-8432</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;[Ahman Green] should be getting more carries starting Sunday.&lt;/em&gt;

The Packers need to be careful how much they use Green.  He&#039;s had an injury problem the past few years.  He&#039;s got to be at least part of the reason sacks have dropped of since he&#039;s been starting.  I&#039;d rather see him in there pass blocking than out with an injury before the playoffs.

D&#8712;T]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>[Ahman Green] should be getting more carries starting Sunday.</em></p>
<p>The Packers need to be careful how much they use Green.  He&#8217;s had an injury problem the past few years.  He&#8217;s got to be at least part of the reason sacks have dropped of since he&#8217;s been starting.  I&#8217;d rather see him in there pass blocking than out with an injury before the playoffs.</p>
<p>D&isin;T</p>
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		<title>By: Dave In Tucson</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And speaking of Ahman Green and pass blocking, have you noticed sacks are way down?

Just 8 in the last 4 games, which is a &lt;b&gt;huge&lt;/b&gt; improvement over 37 sacks in the first 8.

Only 2 sacks last night, one of which was nullified by penalty.  Of course, there was 4 holding calls on the O-line, but holding is better than a sack, if for no other reason than the long-term health of A.Rodgers...

D&#8712;T]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And speaking of Ahman Green and pass blocking, have you noticed sacks are way down?</p>
<p>Just 8 in the last 4 games, which is a <b>huge</b> improvement over 37 sacks in the first 8.</p>
<p>Only 2 sacks last night, one of which was nullified by penalty.  Of course, there was 4 holding calls on the O-line, but holding is better than a sack, if for no other reason than the long-term health of A.Rodgers&#8230;</p>
<p>D&isin;T</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I left my initial game thoughts in the previous thread late last night.  I completely agree with you about how Jaws and Gruden were obnoxious last night in their over-the-top commentary about good plays last night.  I did think that INT by Hawk was an excellent play.  It was perfect coverage and he turned and caught the ball with perfect timing.  

I also thought it was obnoxious how many commercials they ran last night. Do they really have to sandwich a kickoff between two commercial breaks?  Combine it with the penalties and that game was brutal to watch. And, I also hate all the graphics, charts, players introducing themselves, player profiles, weird camera angles before the snap, and crap they run on MNF.  You are right, it does seem like a choreographed show and I would rather just see the game. Is it too much to ask to see the formation before the snap?

Before the game you suggested it was a good idea to have Woodson cover Rice some of the time.  I keyed on Rice on most Raven&#039;s plays as he is the crux of that offense and to see how Capers dealt with him. I thought Nick Barnett was outstanding in covering Rice last night.  He just had an excellent game covering Rice and playing the run.  Taking Rice away caused &quot;check-down Flacco&quot; to make his typical mistakes. 

Overall, the 3-4 defense is LB driven and I think the Packers have found a real good starting four. You have got to have the hogs up front but I am very impressed how Jones, Hawk, Barnett, and Matthews play together.  Throw in Woodson and this defense just clicks right now. 

The Packers currently have Biren Ealy on the 53 man roster.  Replace him with kickoff specialist that can get some touch backs or at least some deep kicks and help our coverage units. That would add far more value to this team then Biren Ealy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left my initial game thoughts in the previous thread late last night.  I completely agree with you about how Jaws and Gruden were obnoxious last night in their over-the-top commentary about good plays last night.  I did think that INT by Hawk was an excellent play.  It was perfect coverage and he turned and caught the ball with perfect timing.  </p>
<p>I also thought it was obnoxious how many commercials they ran last night. Do they really have to sandwich a kickoff between two commercial breaks?  Combine it with the penalties and that game was brutal to watch. And, I also hate all the graphics, charts, players introducing themselves, player profiles, weird camera angles before the snap, and crap they run on MNF.  You are right, it does seem like a choreographed show and I would rather just see the game. Is it too much to ask to see the formation before the snap?</p>
<p>Before the game you suggested it was a good idea to have Woodson cover Rice some of the time.  I keyed on Rice on most Raven&#8217;s plays as he is the crux of that offense and to see how Capers dealt with him. I thought Nick Barnett was outstanding in covering Rice last night.  He just had an excellent game covering Rice and playing the run.  Taking Rice away caused &#8220;check-down Flacco&#8221; to make his typical mistakes. </p>
<p>Overall, the 3-4 defense is LB driven and I think the Packers have found a real good starting four. You have got to have the hogs up front but I am very impressed how Jones, Hawk, Barnett, and Matthews play together.  Throw in Woodson and this defense just clicks right now. </p>
<p>The Packers currently have Biren Ealy on the 53 man roster.  Replace him with kickoff specialist that can get some touch backs or at least some deep kicks and help our coverage units. That would add far more value to this team then Biren Ealy.</p>
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		<title>By: RayMidge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was among those who was starting to sour on McCarthy after 4-4, the team just simply was not playing well enough to NOT blame the coaching.  But I have to give them credit for improving in almost every facet of the game since then.  There were a number of times last night I half expected a guy to make a stupid late hit and when it didn&#039;t happen I was pleasantly surprised.  Also fewer holding calls on the O-line and kickoff returns are a positive indicator of an improving level of discipline and focus that has to be attributed to coaching.

As for TT, the biggest knock that remains is the fact that despite the number of O-linemen he has drafted that position is still a concern now and in the future.  I count Sitton (totally agree that he is a beast, I have started to watch him since you pointed him out a few weeks back and now I think he is a future pro bowler), Spitz pre-injury and maybe T.J. Lang as starting NFL linemen that TT has drafted.  Barbe was terrible and Colledge is still mostly terrible.  Haven&#039;t seen or heard much out of the rest of them.  That said, when you look at the overall depth of the team you have to give credit to TT for Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Raji, Collins, Nelson, Jones, Brandon Jackson (late bloomer), Bigby . . .  Not to mention Rodgers, Woodson, Hawk, Pickett.  We have debated the philosophy of acquiring lots of young talent through the draft and only rarely supplementing that through FA, and I think it is starting to really pay off.  I had become skeptical, but the proof is on the field.

Overall, the biggest factor in this team is the ability to dominate the line of scrimmage on defense and be very strong up the middle.  Jolly, raji, Jenkins, Pickett have been outstanding in the trenches, the 3-4 seems to make the best use of the type of LBs we have and Collins and Bigby have quietly been very good.  

because of the return of (75% strength?) Clifton and tauscher, the o-line has gone from a liability to a nuetral and that has allowed the overall depth at the skill positions to make the difference.  Nelson, Jones, Finley, Jackson and Green are not household names, but I think they are so much better than their counterparts that the odds favor the Pack more and more on offense.  

I was ready to throw these guys over a few weeks back, they were just so sloppy . . . amazing to see it gel over the past month or so.  They really have a chance to make some people sweat in the NFC now and in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was among those who was starting to sour on McCarthy after 4-4, the team just simply was not playing well enough to NOT blame the coaching.  But I have to give them credit for improving in almost every facet of the game since then.  There were a number of times last night I half expected a guy to make a stupid late hit and when it didn&#8217;t happen I was pleasantly surprised.  Also fewer holding calls on the O-line and kickoff returns are a positive indicator of an improving level of discipline and focus that has to be attributed to coaching.</p>
<p>As for TT, the biggest knock that remains is the fact that despite the number of O-linemen he has drafted that position is still a concern now and in the future.  I count Sitton (totally agree that he is a beast, I have started to watch him since you pointed him out a few weeks back and now I think he is a future pro bowler), Spitz pre-injury and maybe T.J. Lang as starting NFL linemen that TT has drafted.  Barbe was terrible and Colledge is still mostly terrible.  Haven&#8217;t seen or heard much out of the rest of them.  That said, when you look at the overall depth of the team you have to give credit to TT for Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Raji, Collins, Nelson, Jones, Brandon Jackson (late bloomer), Bigby . . .  Not to mention Rodgers, Woodson, Hawk, Pickett.  We have debated the philosophy of acquiring lots of young talent through the draft and only rarely supplementing that through FA, and I think it is starting to really pay off.  I had become skeptical, but the proof is on the field.</p>
<p>Overall, the biggest factor in this team is the ability to dominate the line of scrimmage on defense and be very strong up the middle.  Jolly, raji, Jenkins, Pickett have been outstanding in the trenches, the 3-4 seems to make the best use of the type of LBs we have and Collins and Bigby have quietly been very good.  </p>
<p>because of the return of (75% strength?) Clifton and tauscher, the o-line has gone from a liability to a nuetral and that has allowed the overall depth at the skill positions to make the difference.  Nelson, Jones, Finley, Jackson and Green are not household names, but I think they are so much better than their counterparts that the odds favor the Pack more and more on offense.  </p>
<p>I was ready to throw these guys over a few weeks back, they were just so sloppy . . . amazing to see it gel over the past month or so.  They really have a chance to make some people sweat in the NFC now and in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not much to add to that Andy!  I particularly liked your comment on Ahmad Green&#039;s blocking last night.  He not only got in the way he attacked his rusher with a vengance.  As far as his running, he should be getting more carries starting Sunday.

Crosby is either injured or in a mental funk.  In the last four games and hopefully the playoffs, he will likely be called on to win a game.  Right now, I don&#039;t want want him to be in that position.  In addition, his kickoffs are coming up short and putting even more pressure on an already weak coverage team.  They need to get Slocum to fix it now or find someone who will.  Once again last night the coverage team put the opponents in a position to come back.  MM needs to get personally involved in the ST&#039;s and get them on track.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much to add to that Andy!  I particularly liked your comment on Ahmad Green&#8217;s blocking last night.  He not only got in the way he attacked his rusher with a vengance.  As far as his running, he should be getting more carries starting Sunday.</p>
<p>Crosby is either injured or in a mental funk.  In the last four games and hopefully the playoffs, he will likely be called on to win a game.  Right now, I don&#8217;t want want him to be in that position.  In addition, his kickoffs are coming up short and putting even more pressure on an already weak coverage team.  They need to get Slocum to fix it now or find someone who will.  Once again last night the coverage team put the opponents in a position to come back.  MM needs to get personally involved in the ST&#8217;s and get them on track.</p>
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