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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No - and Holmgren wasnt a good GM. He was stripped of that position in Seattle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No &#8211; and Holmgren wasnt a good GM. He was stripped of that position in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[56Coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question Scott--if MM goes &amp; TT stays we&#039;re doomed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Scott&#8211;if MM goes &amp; TT stays we&#8217;re doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott W</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[56-

Holmgren won&#039;t be back...that train left the station.  I wonder if a big name coach would want to come to GB with a GM whose job may be tenuous?  Assuming of course TT gets to keep his job and MM is shown the door at the end of the season.]]></description>
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<p>Holmgren won&#8217;t be back&#8230;that train left the station.  I wonder if a big name coach would want to come to GB with a GM whose job may be tenuous?  Assuming of course TT gets to keep his job and MM is shown the door at the end of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8127</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah crap--we&#039;ve just been cursed.  PFT is picking the Pack 17-16.  Well, that about does it then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah crap&#8211;we&#8217;ve just been cursed.  PFT is picking the Pack 17-16.  Well, that about does it then.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nichols</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8126</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This incident, like other public relations miscues over the last 18 months - most notably the manner in which the August 2008 back and forth with Favre was handled - demonstrates that this current management group is prideful, rigid and just clumsy.

Do they have any sense for how unattractive and disappointing they appear to fans?

I know the franchise&#039;s board is merely advisory, but you cannot help but wonder if any of its members are shaking their heads in dismay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This incident, like other public relations miscues over the last 18 months &#8211; most notably the manner in which the August 2008 back and forth with Favre was handled &#8211; demonstrates that this current management group is prideful, rigid and just clumsy.</p>
<p>Do they have any sense for how unattractive and disappointing they appear to fans?</p>
<p>I know the franchise&#8217;s board is merely advisory, but you cannot help but wonder if any of its members are shaking their heads in dismay.</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[56Coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe--Get out your disappointment wrapping paper.  They ain&#039;t winning out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8211;Get out your disappointment wrapping paper.  They ain&#8217;t winning out.</p>
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		<title>By: bucky</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8123</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of points:

Where did McCarthy say that he would have no problem holding Wood accountable?  I read the Q&amp;A posted on the Journal&#039;s Packers Blog, and didn&#039;t see it there.  Is it somewhere else that I missed?  That would seem to be a pretty big component of your argument, which seems to be that McCarthy has no trouble holding a maintenance guy accountable, but refused to do the same regarding performance on the field.  

Of course, perhaps firing Wood allows McCarthy to truthfully claim that &quot;we are holding people in this building responsible for their actions. . . . .&quot;

I&#039;m not in the personnel field, but I am in the legal field, and I can say that firing someone for such a comment seems kind of shaky.  So perhaps something more was involved that we do not yet know about.  Certainly there is a discrepancy between what McCarthy says happened and what Wood says happened.  I&#039;d like to think someone in the organization thought the whole thing through before any action was taken, but I&#039;ve been in the business world too long to believe that it couldn&#039;t happen otherwise.  

Joe raises an interesting point- this really doesn&#039;t seem like a McCarthy matter in the first place.  And maybe he didn&#039;t ask for Wood&#039;s firing; perhaps instead it was Ted Eisenreich acting on his own initiative after seeing a possibly tense interaction between Wood and McCarthy.  But where is Murphy?  While he would not likely be involved in most hiring and firing decisions, particularly those involving the maintenance staff, I don&#039;t think the Packer organization is so big that he would not at least have been appraised of what was going on.  And he&#039;s also in a position to set it right, if such an action were deemed necessary.  Yet we&#039;ve heard nothing from him, even though it is something more clearly in his area than McCarthy&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of points:</p>
<p>Where did McCarthy say that he would have no problem holding Wood accountable?  I read the Q&amp;A posted on the Journal&#8217;s Packers Blog, and didn&#8217;t see it there.  Is it somewhere else that I missed?  That would seem to be a pretty big component of your argument, which seems to be that McCarthy has no trouble holding a maintenance guy accountable, but refused to do the same regarding performance on the field.  </p>
<p>Of course, perhaps firing Wood allows McCarthy to truthfully claim that &#8220;we are holding people in this building responsible for their actions. . . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in the personnel field, but I am in the legal field, and I can say that firing someone for such a comment seems kind of shaky.  So perhaps something more was involved that we do not yet know about.  Certainly there is a discrepancy between what McCarthy says happened and what Wood says happened.  I&#8217;d like to think someone in the organization thought the whole thing through before any action was taken, but I&#8217;ve been in the business world too long to believe that it couldn&#8217;t happen otherwise.  </p>
<p>Joe raises an interesting point- this really doesn&#8217;t seem like a McCarthy matter in the first place.  And maybe he didn&#8217;t ask for Wood&#8217;s firing; perhaps instead it was Ted Eisenreich acting on his own initiative after seeing a possibly tense interaction between Wood and McCarthy.  But where is Murphy?  While he would not likely be involved in most hiring and firing decisions, particularly those involving the maintenance staff, I don&#8217;t think the Packer organization is so big that he would not at least have been appraised of what was going on.  And he&#8217;s also in a position to set it right, if such an action were deemed necessary.  Yet we&#8217;ve heard nothing from him, even though it is something more clearly in his area than McCarthy&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy V</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/holding-the-wrong-guy-accountable/#comment-8122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy V]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This firing of the grounds crew makes McCarthy and the whole Packer organization look petty.  What a bunch of thin-skinned idiots to think that firing a member of the grounds crew will right the ship they&#039;ve taken down through their own incompetetence.  This is not the team nor the organization I grew up to love and be proud of.  I want my team back!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This firing of the grounds crew makes McCarthy and the whole Packer organization look petty.  What a bunch of thin-skinned idiots to think that firing a member of the grounds crew will right the ship they&#8217;ve taken down through their own incompetetence.  This is not the team nor the organization I grew up to love and be proud of.  I want my team back!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;this is the season on Sunday&quot;

Sorry guys, unless they win out starting on Sunday, I am calling this season a disappointment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;this is the season on Sunday&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry guys, unless they win out starting on Sunday, I am calling this season a disappointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Trav</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard rumors that Homgren is bound for Cleveland in some capacity and that he is itching to get back into the game.  Cowher and Gruden will be in high demand with some of the crappy teams out there this year.  I hold off judgement on our team until kickoff on Sunday.  

As Andy noted and I agree, this is the season on Sunday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard rumors that Homgren is bound for Cleveland in some capacity and that he is itching to get back into the game.  Cowher and Gruden will be in high demand with some of the crappy teams out there this year.  I hold off judgement on our team until kickoff on Sunday.  </p>
<p>As Andy noted and I agree, this is the season on Sunday.</p>
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