We can argue over “better fans” all you want but what are you really trying to measure? Who sells out more games? You guys do.

I overheard a Packer conversation from a couple weeks ago where one of the “fans” said “I forgot we even had Ahman Green”.

So if it’s knowledgable fans, I’m not sure you win. There are a vast array of “level’s” of fans. I’d consider myself on of the most die-hard Viking fans, and I’m pretty knowledgable about them as well (for as long as I can remember), but I DO NOT and WILL NOT pay to see games at the dome.

So am I a “bad” fan or a fair weather fan then? You decide for your arguments sake and I will for mine. But unless we’re actually measuring a known quantity, neither of us are factually right.

If you go and have some good friends to go with, it can be a fun one time thing.

For the price of good season tickets (and worse, the miserable food prices) I can buy some really nice home theater equipment and that’s what I’ve done. (LCD / Plasma). I tivo the game, I watch parts of it live (depending on the game. Around half time I go outside and play with my kids with the radio in the garage on. Then if it’s close I come in to watch the end of the game. Far more fun and I safely save $300 bucks on the day. Not to mention, I’m eating freshly made grilled foods that I grilled or smoked that day with my choice of homebrew or microbrew.

Now if I had a chance to go to Lambeau, I’d gladly pay hundreds of dollars for the experience of tailgating and outdoor football on grass where you actually hear “actual” sounds of the game.

stop giving vikings fans such a good name. your reasonable commentary and points are ruining our perspective that all of you resemble the smarmy group that came out of the woodwork over at cheeseheadtv before and after the last pack-vikings game.

most sporting events, if i’m paying, i’d rather stay at home. but from what i’ve heard, it sounds like, even with someone footing the bill, a trip to the metrodome is almost a sort of sporting un-experience. like it just steals a tiny bit of your soul and you leave not quite knowing what’s wrong.

but part of the frustrating part of modern sports is that live events are less and less for fans. they’re for businesses and slick-haired fancypantses. i remember going to miller park the year it opened, and three things struck me – the walkway was carpeted (???), the guys sitting next to us were wearing ties, and a vendor came by soon after i was seated to try and sell me grilled portabella mushrooms. i thought it was some sort of prank. my memory of county stadium was that beer vendor everyone made fun of, and the whole stands yelling back at him “beeea heeeeeeeea.” of course, they were chanting at the vendors because the play on the field was so bad, but at least they were belligerent.

you can practically buy an lcd tv for the price of tickets that give you a view comparable to the picture quality at most stadiums.

1. The experience. I’d sooner watch it at home.

2. Not the only game in town. Green Bay is the only game in Green Bay. In Minnesota, they fight for audience with Twins, Twolves, Wild. It’s a four sport town. (one of very few. (Chicago, Boston, NY).

3. The share time with a college team as well. Gopher football, gopher hockey, and gopher basketball are all decent draws which fight for the sports dollar as well.

4. People in Minnesota just don’t care about football as much. We have a lot of fans who bleed purple as much as GB fans bleed Green. But there are a lot fewer of the “fans” who put on their Favre jersey each Sunday and call themselves fans because everyone else is a Packer fan. (Being a Packer fan is kinda like a religion. You’re parents bring you there on sunday whether you like it or not). In Minnesota, if you don’t like it, chances are you can go with mom or aunt Sue to head to a children’s theater on a Sunday. There’s less cultural alternatives in Green Bay.

Totally OT..NYC’s Morgan Library has a fascinating exhibit on Jane Austen, (no, her distant relative is not Romo’s new fav. receiver) In her era, paper was expensive and she invariably would fold a sheet in half to make 4 pages. Then she’d turn it sideways and write perpendicular. She wrote fast, her thoughts flying off the page in even the tiniest of spaces. This literary giant was forced to use every available space accorded her and still accomplished immortality. And then, whilst contemplating this I had a surreal moment..and thought of TT. He has bountiful cap space at his disposal..and our beloved Packers flounder around at 4-4, prompting giggles and sneers from the espen talking torsos.

Life is unfair.

Go Pack Go!!

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