I too wish Aaron would get rid of some of those balls but there are some where he just didn’t flat have time too. I don’t think you can hang the “can’t win the big game” label on Aaron yet. When has he had a fair chance to? He’s either dealing with dropped balls, running for his life or dealing with poor play calling.

Personally, I have no problem with Rodgers at all. I do have a problem with the O-line & am beginning to seriously doubt the coaching & front office. If things don’t get straightened out & if I were Aaron I would demand a release from my contract. One requirement of a valid contract is it must be of a legal nature. Having to fend for your life cannot be legal.

Thompson’s entire philosophy was to to build within the team and the draft and he wasn’t going to deviate from that mindset no matter what Favre wanted/demanded and frankly I saw nothing wrong with Favre wanting Moss. Tom Brady lobbied heavily for the same guy and was rewarded with an MVP season.

I’ll say this to all of you and the continuing Favre discussion. I don’t consider him a traitor or a Judas. The Packers wanted Rodgers, and Favre had earned the right to go wherever he was wanted.

Causa Finita..the matter is ended. The fact that he nailed our collective posteriors in the Dome and the Lambeau tundra and had an exhilarating time doing it….there are worse things under the sun.

The word is out about AR’s propensity of hanging on to the ball too long and not being able to “win a big game”. He had ample time in the Lambeau game. Let’s hope he overcomes both “problems” otherwise Favre and talk of Favre will NEVER go away.

Once Favre was told Aaron was the guy in GB, then thats when revenge entered his mind. Therefore, once starting in GB was no longer an option (or a questionable circumstance, given whatever the QB competition was going to be), then his decision came down to retiring or playing for a team not named the Packers. Therefore, his “part of my decision was to stick it to Ted” came into play in that decision. So, like I said, going to the Vikings would have given his best chance to win outside the Packers, and sticking to the Ted was also a possibility.

As for the meeting with McCarthy, I’m sure Favre got extremely emotional (surprise). McCarthy obviously didn’t like what he heard, and decided he didn’t want Favre disrupting his locker-room. Its not like it was a mutually exclusive proposition that he wanted to play for the Packers but was also an emotional wreck at the time.

As far as Favre in domes since 2000. Look at the numbers. You can’t just take one game (more specifically a quarter and a half in one game) and say he wasn’t much better in domes than outdoors. Domes vs. outdoors, his numbers were much better in domes since 2000. Thats fact, not speculation.

Well, maybe I just don’t care about Ted Thompson’s feelings. Favre is doing the same thing that Josh Freeman is trying to do, beat the Packers, the rest is emotional crap that isn’t relevant at this point.

It doesn’t really matter when the QB competition came up because even when it was an option and would give him what you claim he wanted – to play for the Packers – he refused. How much could he really want to play for the Packers if he wasn’t even willing to compete for his job – something he surely thought he would win?

As for his meeting with McCarthy, if Favre truly wanted to play for the Packers shouldn’t he have been able to convince McCarthy that he wanted to do that? You also haven’t addressed the fact that Favre said that part of the reason he came back in 2008 was to stick it to Ted Thompson. Not part of the reason he came out of retirment was to stick it to Ted. Playing for the Packers and potentially leading them to the playoffs or SB wouldn’t stick it to TT – it would make him look good. So the idea that Favre wanted to play for Green Bay seems contradicted by his own statement that he wanted to stick it Ted Thompson when he came back. As well as the fact that his agent was calling around asking other teams about their interest, his demand for a release rather than to play or working with the Packers for a trade, refusing to compete for his job, etc.

Favre was up and down in Domes, even at the end. The Dallas game is a very good example of his crashing in a Dome even at the end of his career.

Josh Freeman isn’t trying to the organization itself – just beat it. Favre wants to hurt Ted Thompson and thereby the team. Do you think that the media crap last summer didn’t affect the team? Or that the hype around the Viking games this year didn’t affect the team? That’s different from just playing to win a game.

Pretty smart thinking on their part I suppose.

I’m with Ron. Call me when he retires. I root for the laundry–not the players of another team.

When Favre asked for his release, I was under the impression that Packer management told him that starting for the Packers was “not an option.” The idea of a quarterback competition came later.

And then, when Favre and McCarthy met and had their 3 hour conversation (which they should have done fromt the get go), McCarthy said Favre’s mind was not in the right place to start for the Packers. So, after that meeting, I’m not sure a QB competition was still on the menu.

As far as Favre in domes. When he was first thinking of signing with Minnesota, I saw a post on a message board which showed his stats in domes since 2000, and they were very good, somewhere around a 95 QB rating.

The cell phone story, I’ll grant you, could have come from anywhere.

As far as Favre actively trying to hurt the Packers. At this point, he can’t do anything more to actively try and hurt the Packers than try and beat them, which is exactly what Josh Freeman will try and do (and fail) this weekend. It comes with the territory when you are wearing a different colored jersey.

Nor was Favre willing to compete for the starting job and if he actually wanted to play for the Packers you would think that would be something he would be willing to do since he felt he was the better player.

The facts don’t add up to Favre wanting to play for the Packers. Much of it is speculation and circumstanstial evidence, but with this type of situation that is the best you can get. What we do know – there were reports of Cook calling around asking teams if they were interested in Favre, Favre was talking to multiple people on the Vikings coaching staff but not to people in the Packers organization, Favre initially demanded his release specifically to play for the Vikings – the team whose coaching staff he’d been talking to during the off-season, when offered a chance to compete for the starting job and thereby get to stay in Green Bay he refuses, Andrew Brandt says that in his opinion that Favre was frustrated with TT’s handling of the team and Troy Aikman says he felt Favre didn’t want to come back the Packers.

Tranted, most of that is hearsay and speculation. But the evidence Favre wanted to come back? His statements that he wanted to come back which given that he was saying he was staying retired until days before he said he wanted his release raises suggestions about his veracity.

As for Tampa not having Adrian Peterson, that is true. But they don’t play in a dome, something Favre struggled with for many years, it’s closer to his home, they had actually made the play-offs and John Gruden is arguably a better coach than Brad Childress.

For the cell phone story, it could have come from an awful lot of people. Like the people who claimed this year that Favre’s family had reserved 60 hotel rooms for last weekend. Or the people who claimed Childress was flying down to MS when he wasn’t during the summer. Unnamed sources can be anyone who has even a remote connection to the story. I never read McGinn’s article since I don’t have an Insider subscription but most of the quotes I’ve seen from other sources it never says a ‘team source’ just a source. You would think that if it was a team source McGinn would have said so to give his story more credibility.

As for Favre being just a player on a division rival, I disagree. He’s not just a player, he’s a former player who (even you admit) is at least partially playing on the Vikings because he wants to get revenge on the Packers. I know that most Viking players, such as Jared Allen, get very fired up playing the Packers. That is understandable – they are division rivals and those games are important for playoffs as well as bragging rights. I don’t think any of them are actively trying to hurt the Packers, as Favre is doing. And that’s a big diference for me.

He’s just a player on a division rival at this point. Nothing more, nothing less.

Get back to me when he retires!