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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/offensive-line-in-shambles/#comment-7282</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron La Canne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good control!  Not sure why this is happening to the team, but it ain&#039;t anything new.  This goes back to last year - Game two against the Lions where GB almost became the Lions only victory.  Both lines are not perfoming and MM had better well get it fixed this week.  No more excuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good control!  Not sure why this is happening to the team, but it ain&#8217;t anything new.  This goes back to last year &#8211; Game two against the Lions where GB almost became the Lions only victory.  Both lines are not perfoming and MM had better well get it fixed this week.  No more excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[56Coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God, Lindy Infante--I was at a Falcons Packers game in Atlanta in 91.  His last year I think and we had Majik &amp; Mandarich.  Packers came out to like a 28-0 lead.  Totally blew it in the last qtr. lost like 37-31.  Some little kid about 4-5 years old was at his first game with his father sitting in front of us.  He turned around and looked at me and said &quot;You&#039;re team stinks&quot;.  Scared his father to death thinking I was going to beat the crap out him  (one of the few situations like that where I had an obvious size advantage).  I looked at the kid &amp; said, &quot;They sure do son, they sure do.  Hopefully, we&#039;re not headed back those years of mediocrity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, Lindy Infante&#8211;I was at a Falcons Packers game in Atlanta in 91.  His last year I think and we had Majik &amp; Mandarich.  Packers came out to like a 28-0 lead.  Totally blew it in the last qtr. lost like 37-31.  Some little kid about 4-5 years old was at his first game with his father sitting in front of us.  He turned around and looked at me and said &#8220;You&#8217;re team stinks&#8221;.  Scared his father to death thinking I was going to beat the crap out him  (one of the few situations like that where I had an obvious size advantage).  I looked at the kid &amp; said, &#8220;They sure do son, they sure do.  Hopefully, we&#8217;re not headed back those years of mediocrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/offensive-line-in-shambles/#comment-7280</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron La Canne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[56,  I&#039;m beginning to feel like Lindy Infante is coaching again and Scoter McClean has been made the GM.  How is it possible that TT or MM could look at their O line depth chart on opening day and not say we need to get some one on the roster fast.  No, TT was just so excited that once Clifton was gone it would the cheapest line in the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56,  I&#8217;m beginning to feel like Lindy Infante is coaching again and Scoter McClean has been made the GM.  How is it possible that TT or MM could look at their O line depth chart on opening day and not say we need to get some one on the roster fast.  No, TT was just so excited that once Clifton was gone it would the cheapest line in the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/offensive-line-in-shambles/#comment-7279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[56Coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My bad-thats Jamon Meredith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad-thats Jamon Meredith.</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/offensive-line-in-shambles/#comment-7278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[56Coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kinda buffaloed me when I read it also Ron.  Last year it was pad levels, this year it&#039;s fundamentals--but don&#039;t worry, we&#039;ll get it fixed--right.  Appears the Bills just picked up our 5th round draft pick from our practice squad, Jamon Merewether--Tackle/Guard.  I&#039;m assuming MM &amp; TT had already decided he was no good, however, I&#039;m beginning to wonder if assuming anything at thispoint is the right thiing to do.  Just seems funny to me, thought enough of him to sign him to practice squad but even though our line is starting to get a little thin you just let jim go to the Bills.  God I hope we blow out the Rams next week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda buffaloed me when I read it also Ron.  Last year it was pad levels, this year it&#8217;s fundamentals&#8211;but don&#8217;t worry, we&#8217;ll get it fixed&#8211;right.  Appears the Bills just picked up our 5th round draft pick from our practice squad, Jamon Merewether&#8211;Tackle/Guard.  I&#8217;m assuming MM &amp; TT had already decided he was no good, however, I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if assuming anything at thispoint is the right thiing to do.  Just seems funny to me, thought enough of him to sign him to practice squad but even though our line is starting to get a little thin you just let jim go to the Bills.  God I hope we blow out the Rams next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/offensive-line-in-shambles/#comment-7275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron La Canne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:
(You said the protection is affecting your play-calling. Back in 06 you used a lot of seven-man protections, and then in 07 you opened up more. Do you have to dial back now what you&#039;d like to call?) 
MM:
The reality is the plays that we&#039;ve had the problems on are the plays we used back then. The quarterback never was hit in those protections two years ago like he&#039;s been hit the first two weeks. They&#039;re fundamental, one-on-one, individual opportunities that&#039;s happened. We&#039;ll look to do some things to help that type of situation. But our quarterback has never been hit like Aaron&#039;s been hit these last two weeks in that particular protection. 

Does this answer bother anyone but me?  He is basically saying that his players can&#039;t win the individual battles.  Can that mean MM and TT have picked the wrong damned players?  Yes, I think so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:<br />
(You said the protection is affecting your play-calling. Back in 06 you used a lot of seven-man protections, and then in 07 you opened up more. Do you have to dial back now what you&#8217;d like to call?)<br />
MM:<br />
The reality is the plays that we&#8217;ve had the problems on are the plays we used back then. The quarterback never was hit in those protections two years ago like he&#8217;s been hit the first two weeks. They&#8217;re fundamental, one-on-one, individual opportunities that&#8217;s happened. We&#8217;ll look to do some things to help that type of situation. But our quarterback has never been hit like Aaron&#8217;s been hit these last two weeks in that particular protection. </p>
<p>Does this answer bother anyone but me?  He is basically saying that his players can&#8217;t win the individual battles.  Can that mean MM and TT have picked the wrong damned players?  Yes, I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron La Canne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TT&#039;s O line philosophy is simple, pay minimum salary to any big fat schlub and he will be a star,  God forbid, you actually have to pay for talent.  As bad as this stinking group is, TT will not give Tauscher a call.  He likes the $4 or $5 million he puts in Retainded Earnings.  If you want a good cry just read the Packer Oline depth chart.  They carry one replacement tackle who hasn&#039;t been active for the first two games and two Rookie Guards.  Oh and a jouneyman Center who is now a starter again.  Next year Clifton and Wells will be gone and then what will they have.

The four LB&#039;s need some changes.  Poppinga, Hawk and Barnett have all earned bench time for their poor play.  Get Bishop on the field, at least then GB would have someone who isn&#039;t afraid to hit someone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT&#8217;s O line philosophy is simple, pay minimum salary to any big fat schlub and he will be a star,  God forbid, you actually have to pay for talent.  As bad as this stinking group is, TT will not give Tauscher a call.  He likes the $4 or $5 million he puts in Retainded Earnings.  If you want a good cry just read the Packer Oline depth chart.  They carry one replacement tackle who hasn&#8217;t been active for the first two games and two Rookie Guards.  Oh and a jouneyman Center who is now a starter again.  Next year Clifton and Wells will be gone and then what will they have.</p>
<p>The four LB&#8217;s need some changes.  Poppinga, Hawk and Barnett have all earned bench time for their poor play.  Get Bishop on the field, at least then GB would have someone who isn&#8217;t afraid to hit someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Baumann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Baumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob,

I think it&#039;s important to note (according to Wikipedia) that Jerry Jones used almost $933 million of bonds from the city of Arlington to fund the stadium.  The city raised the sales tax, added a hotel and car rental tax to help pay for the stadium.  He also received $150 million from the NFL.  The NFL assists teams with stadium financing.

Do I hear another &quot;Hail Ceasar&quot;?

Jeff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to note (according to Wikipedia) that Jerry Jones used almost $933 million of bonds from the city of Arlington to fund the stadium.  The city raised the sales tax, added a hotel and car rental tax to help pay for the stadium.  He also received $150 million from the NFL.  The NFL assists teams with stadium financing.</p>
<p>Do I hear another &#8220;Hail Ceasar&#8221;?</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: 56Coop</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/offensive-line-in-shambles/#comment-7269</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob-I totally agree with the fact that the fault appears to be on coaching &amp; front office.  This team has way too much talent to be mediocre.  I would say that part of our lack of running game is due to the offensive line but another factor is Grant can&#039;t seem to get past 5 yards. He seems to have lost his ability to make people miss.  Either that or our offense is so predicatable that the defense just knows where to be.

Speaking of defense, ours seems to be rather pourous.  If it weren&#039;t for Woodson yesterday I&#039;m afraid we would have witnessed a blowout.  Not very happy with linebacker playing.  After watching Chicago play the Steelers yesterday I&#039;m beginning to wonder if week 1 was a fluke.  This is shaping up to be another long season.  I know all about the &quot;on any given Sunday&quot; thing but I&#039;m wondering if this might be the beginning of the end to the TT and/or MM era.  I know it&#039;s only 2 weeks in the season but after last season it does not appear the Packer&#039;s tendancies are to improve--more like stay the course..and that ain&#039;t cuttin it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob-I totally agree with the fact that the fault appears to be on coaching &amp; front office.  This team has way too much talent to be mediocre.  I would say that part of our lack of running game is due to the offensive line but another factor is Grant can&#8217;t seem to get past 5 yards. He seems to have lost his ability to make people miss.  Either that or our offense is so predicatable that the defense just knows where to be.</p>
<p>Speaking of defense, ours seems to be rather pourous.  If it weren&#8217;t for Woodson yesterday I&#8217;m afraid we would have witnessed a blowout.  Not very happy with linebacker playing.  After watching Chicago play the Steelers yesterday I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if week 1 was a fluke.  This is shaping up to be another long season.  I know all about the &#8220;on any given Sunday&#8221; thing but I&#8217;m wondering if this might be the beginning of the end to the TT and/or MM era.  I know it&#8217;s only 2 weeks in the season but after last season it does not appear the Packer&#8217;s tendancies are to improve&#8211;more like stay the course..and that ain&#8217;t cuttin it.</p>
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		<title>By: awhayes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JS, DaveK and Bob - all quality points. JS - I agree, our line looks much slower than the opposing defensive lines. That&#039;s a problem. And Bob, I have to admit, I am wondering about McCarthy&#039;s creativity too. I don&#039;t know if the players (the o-line) and their collective lack of execution seriously interfere with his ability to call a variety of plays or if McCarthy may in fact, just not be that creative playcall wise. Either way, it&#039;s a concern - perhaps my opinion of McCarthy being creative stems mostly from the fact that he had new/fresh ideas his first couple years (but maybe by now, defenses have had some time to study his tendencies). 

But the other point Bob, that I like that you made concerns McCarthy&#039;s in-game decision making. I pegged McCarthy as a decent in-game coach after the 2007 season. But now I&#039;m not so sure. 

Still, I&#039;m not ready to jump ship and my hope is that Capers and McCarthy can work together to get this back on track - we&#039;ll see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS, DaveK and Bob &#8211; all quality points. JS &#8211; I agree, our line looks much slower than the opposing defensive lines. That&#8217;s a problem. And Bob, I have to admit, I am wondering about McCarthy&#8217;s creativity too. I don&#8217;t know if the players (the o-line) and their collective lack of execution seriously interfere with his ability to call a variety of plays or if McCarthy may in fact, just not be that creative playcall wise. Either way, it&#8217;s a concern &#8211; perhaps my opinion of McCarthy being creative stems mostly from the fact that he had new/fresh ideas his first couple years (but maybe by now, defenses have had some time to study his tendencies). </p>
<p>But the other point Bob, that I like that you made concerns McCarthy&#8217;s in-game decision making. I pegged McCarthy as a decent in-game coach after the 2007 season. But now I&#8217;m not so sure. </p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m not ready to jump ship and my hope is that Capers and McCarthy can work together to get this back on track &#8211; we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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