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		<title>By: Sportspack</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6081</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Tiponline, Isn&#039;t Pubcrawler a Bear?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tiponline, Isn&#8217;t Pubcrawler a Bear?</p>
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		<title>By: Sportspack</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6080</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Joshy, I gots to know, who are Steve and Andy? Ted and Mike need to start signing our 1 star-caliber player! A few more years? Are you kidding me? Are the fantastic coaches going to suit up or what?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joshy, I gots to know, who are Steve and Andy? Ted and Mike need to start signing our 1 star-caliber player! A few more years? Are you kidding me? Are the fantastic coaches going to suit up or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Tiponline</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiponline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another Packer Football expert, must be brothers.
Mr. WOSHY, I&#039;m glad you recognize SOLID STREET CRED and GOOD &#039;OL FASHIONED CAPITAL LETTERS! 
(We already have AMOS and ANDY running the show by the way...oh you said &quot;steve&quot;, my mistake...get it right, it&#039;s going to be&quot;Mike and Jon&quot;)
You obviously have put me in the &quot;Pro-Favre camp&quot;.  Aaron Rodgers will be a great QB only if he has a great organization supporting him.
A REAL Packer fan would remember this formula: 
Wolf + Holmgren =
Great players wanting to play for a great organization.
And recognize our present formula is:
Toolman + Train Conductor + Pubcrawler = 
Players around the league saying...&#039;Stay away from Green Bay, what a mess! And I don&#039;t want Justin Harrel outplaying me either !&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another Packer Football expert, must be brothers.<br />
Mr. WOSHY, I&#8217;m glad you recognize SOLID STREET CRED and GOOD &#8216;OL FASHIONED CAPITAL LETTERS!<br />
(We already have AMOS and ANDY running the show by the way&#8230;oh you said &#8220;steve&#8221;, my mistake&#8230;get it right, it&#8217;s going to be&#8221;Mike and Jon&#8221;)<br />
You obviously have put me in the &#8220;Pro-Favre camp&#8221;.  Aaron Rodgers will be a great QB only if he has a great organization supporting him.<br />
A REAL Packer fan would remember this formula:<br />
Wolf + Holmgren =<br />
Great players wanting to play for a great organization.<br />
And recognize our present formula is:<br />
Toolman + Train Conductor + Pubcrawler =<br />
Players around the league saying&#8230;&#8217;Stay away from Green Bay, what a mess! And I don&#8217;t want Justin Harrel outplaying me either !&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: joshywoshybigfatposhy</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6070</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes tip, your high level of exactness, the undeniable girth of your street cred, and your capital letters and exclamation points really do make us all feel out of place and emasculated.  thanks for setting everything straight there, tip.  

but seriously, steve and andy aren&#039;t ready to take over yet.  let their kids get to the age they can walk to school themselves, and give ted and mike a few more years to bring in loads of young talent for little money, take the necessary risk of implementing a better defense with fantastic coaches, continue working with what looks like a 2nd franchise quarterback in a row (by the time rodgers is done, we very well may have been so spoiled as to have 25 years in a row with a better-than-good qb at the helm), and be fiscally responsible enough to sign our own star-caliber players before they hit free-agency.  

in time, the hayes&#039; will have something to work with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes tip, your high level of exactness, the undeniable girth of your street cred, and your capital letters and exclamation points really do make us all feel out of place and emasculated.  thanks for setting everything straight there, tip.  </p>
<p>but seriously, steve and andy aren&#8217;t ready to take over yet.  let their kids get to the age they can walk to school themselves, and give ted and mike a few more years to bring in loads of young talent for little money, take the necessary risk of implementing a better defense with fantastic coaches, continue working with what looks like a 2nd franchise quarterback in a row (by the time rodgers is done, we very well may have been so spoiled as to have 25 years in a row with a better-than-good qb at the helm), and be fiscally responsible enough to sign our own star-caliber players before they hit free-agency.  </p>
<p>in time, the hayes&#8217; will have something to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiponline</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiponline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Troy, I guess we are truely blessed to have you, a football expert on this blog ! Your unique wisdom has us all now convinced that going from 13-3 (&amp; a overtime a way from the SB) to 6-10 is nothing to be freaked out about. I am a DIEHARD Packerbacker with my roots in Bonduel WI. I have street cred and will tell everyone EXACTLY the way it is....Here it is, THE TEAM IS IN SHAMBLES AND TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, THE BEARS FINALLY HAVE A FRANCHISE QB. TED THE TOOL AND MACKIE BOY MUST GO ! Believe it !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Troy, I guess we are truely blessed to have you, a football expert on this blog ! Your unique wisdom has us all now convinced that going from 13-3 (&amp; a overtime a way from the SB) to 6-10 is nothing to be freaked out about. I am a DIEHARD Packerbacker with my roots in Bonduel WI. I have street cred and will tell everyone EXACTLY the way it is&#8230;.Here it is, THE TEAM IS IN SHAMBLES AND TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, THE BEARS FINALLY HAVE A FRANCHISE QB. TED THE TOOL AND MACKIE BOY MUST GO ! Believe it !</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6052</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny...Dan Marino was a good qb but had 0 super bowl rings to show for it...WHATS YOUR POINT BEARSFAN?...I truthfully don&#039;t think anyone in the greater United States area who is a Packers fan is too worried about Cutler...maybe the same people who freaked out about Rodgers being the QB and the Pack letting go Favre...but they already know nothing about football...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny&#8230;Dan Marino was a good qb but had 0 super bowl rings to show for it&#8230;WHATS YOUR POINT BEARSFAN?&#8230;I truthfully don&#8217;t think anyone in the greater United States area who is a Packers fan is too worried about Cutler&#8230;maybe the same people who freaked out about Rodgers being the QB and the Pack letting go Favre&#8230;but they already know nothing about football&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6051</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this trade sort of reeks of desperation for Angelo. He needs wins sooner rather then later or his job is in jeopardy. This trade wasn&#039;t about the team it was about his job security.  He couldn&#039;t wait around for a first round QB to develop and he knew that Orton was just not going to get it done. So, he gives away the farm to get a guy that can come in an play well THIS year. The only way this works out for the Bears is if Cutler turns into a franchise QB for the next 5+ years. Then they don&#039;t have to draft QB&#039;s with future draft picks and with the QB spot locked down you can focus on other aspects of your team in the draft. But, the huge risk here is if Cutler is just average. They would then have limited draft picks to build a team around him or to replace him.  Angelo has essentially put his job and the Bears ability to compete for the next 3-5 years in the hands of Cutler.  So, the big question: Is Cutler good enough to be a franchise QB for the next five+ years?   

The side story to this trade is Cutler&#039;s contract.  He is set to make around $1 million the next three years.  I guess it is possible that Cutler is willing to play out the last three years of his rookie contract but given his actions in Denver the last month and his agent I doubt that happens.
This trade gives Cutler and Cook some serious leverage to get a new deal sooner rather then later. The Bears are not exactly flush with cap space and adding $12 million in payroll for a new contract for the &quot;franchise&quot; QB is going to limit what they can do in FA going forward.  Limited draft picks. Limited cap space.  They must really think Cutler is the final piece to the puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this trade sort of reeks of desperation for Angelo. He needs wins sooner rather then later or his job is in jeopardy. This trade wasn&#8217;t about the team it was about his job security.  He couldn&#8217;t wait around for a first round QB to develop and he knew that Orton was just not going to get it done. So, he gives away the farm to get a guy that can come in an play well THIS year. The only way this works out for the Bears is if Cutler turns into a franchise QB for the next 5+ years. Then they don&#8217;t have to draft QB&#8217;s with future draft picks and with the QB spot locked down you can focus on other aspects of your team in the draft. But, the huge risk here is if Cutler is just average. They would then have limited draft picks to build a team around him or to replace him.  Angelo has essentially put his job and the Bears ability to compete for the next 3-5 years in the hands of Cutler.  So, the big question: Is Cutler good enough to be a franchise QB for the next five+ years?   </p>
<p>The side story to this trade is Cutler&#8217;s contract.  He is set to make around $1 million the next three years.  I guess it is possible that Cutler is willing to play out the last three years of his rookie contract but given his actions in Denver the last month and his agent I doubt that happens.<br />
This trade gives Cutler and Cook some serious leverage to get a new deal sooner rather then later. The Bears are not exactly flush with cap space and adding $12 million in payroll for a new contract for the &#8220;franchise&#8221; QB is going to limit what they can do in FA going forward.  Limited draft picks. Limited cap space.  They must really think Cutler is the final piece to the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: joshywoshybigfatposhy</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6048</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, but dude.  you&#039;re a bears fan.  i mean, i&#039;m just sayin.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, but dude.  you&#8217;re a bears fan.  i mean, i&#8217;m just sayin.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bearfan3454</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/comment-from-bear-fan/#comment-6046</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As per usual, the packer geekdom is attempting to down play a significant improvement in the Chicago Bears in an effort to ease what I&#039;m sure is significant panic over what is sure to be complete domination by the Bears over the Packers for the next mmmm lets say ten years or so. I&#039;m sure that only having the football season to look forward to every year would make you protective of your team but the reality is that you had a very good player in Favre for many years but only won one superbowl with him. Can anyone say underachieving? Now those days are long gone and your desperate to hang your hat on an unproven player in Rodgers. If that helps you sleep at night, then I guess go for it. All I can say is good luck to you and see you in September.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per usual, the packer geekdom is attempting to down play a significant improvement in the Chicago Bears in an effort to ease what I&#8217;m sure is significant panic over what is sure to be complete domination by the Bears over the Packers for the next mmmm lets say ten years or so. I&#8217;m sure that only having the football season to look forward to every year would make you protective of your team but the reality is that you had a very good player in Favre for many years but only won one superbowl with him. Can anyone say underachieving? Now those days are long gone and your desperate to hang your hat on an unproven player in Rodgers. If that helps you sleep at night, then I guess go for it. All I can say is good luck to you and see you in September.</p>
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		<title>By: gkender</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gkender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[29 QBs started for the bears during the last 17 years (Favre and one A Rodg year)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29 QBs started for the bears during the last 17 years (Favre and one A Rodg year)</p>
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