Gregg Williams signs with New Orleans

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Read here from jsonline – Gregg Williams no longer an option. I was intrigued by the jsonline article this morning that talked about Tim Lewis. I don’t know much about him except that I felt really bad years ago when it looked like he might be paralyzed after making a tackle. His experience is interesting though and I like the fact that he’s worked with both the 4-3 and 3-4. I’m on record preferring a change to a 3-4, but I think it would be nice to have someone who has experience with both. I also am drawn immediately to the fact that he’s worked with Dick LeBeau. His 4 year D Coordinator success in Pittsburgh was also impressive. Sean McDermott is also a guy to keep in mind as anyone who has been working with Jim Johnson for more than a few years has to have picked up some good ideas. While Gregg Williams may have been decent, I do wonder if his personal style would have fit under TT/MM (I get the sense he’s fairly strong-willed). He apparently has had some issues in the past getting along with head coaches, including last year with Jack Del Rio. Right now in fact, I’m getting the sense that it may be a good thing that we didn’t land any of the initial, hot candidates because some of these other guys may be just as good. It’s not like we missed out on a Monte Kiffin, Dick LeBeau or Jim Johnson.

That said, I do have some concern, as some of you have mentioned, about whether Green Bay is still a place players/coaches even want to come. I wonder if some coaches have concerns about TT and/or MM. Reggie White made Green Bay a place lots of players and coaches wanted to come. And I believe Favre helped maintain that for years. But now, I have to admit, I’m not so sure it’s as attractive a place to work.

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11 Responses to “Gregg Williams signs with New Orleans”

  1. Ron La Canne Says:

    And another one bites the dust, lalalala! If TT and MM have a plan it is well camoflagued. Maybe they’ll give Sanders a Muligan?

  2. DaveK Says:

    Ron – I think their plan was to hire Nolan and when Nolan declined then the plan switced to hire Williams. It appears both had contract offers and they choose other options. Not a good sign. I don’t pretend to know what guy is the best D.C. but when MM’s top two choices go another direction then it means he is going to have to settle for his 3rd, 4th, 5th….option. Not a good sign at all. The only upside it that maybe he gets a better guy that can’t interview right now because he is still in the playoffs. And, maybe it forces MM to go outside his comfort zone and hire someone not in his inner circle.

  3. Ron La Canne Says:

    And now it is being reported that Haslett is the #1 candidate. When MM was in NO, just how good was the NO defense? IT WAS CRAP!!!!

  4. DaveK Says:

    PFT is reporting that Haslett is out in St. Louis. Next stop Green Bay? I am not too excited about him after looking at the rankings of the D’s he has coached. He just doesn’t seem to have had much success in building a really good defense. But, then you get this from the Gazette:

    “Haslett has a good reputation among scouts as a defensive coordinator even though his defenses in St. Louis never ranked better than No. 23 in fewest yards allowed and No. 28 in points allowed in three seasons. One scout said he wouldn’t judge the performance of any Rams’ coaches in recent years because of the inherent structural flaws that made St. Louis one of several dysfunctional organizations in the league.”

  5. Aisling Seanna Glennie Says:

    It would be foolish not to sign Jennings asap. He was a big part of Rodgers’ successful stats this season.

    I wonder if I could ask a question re Favre. I read this site often and all of you have a dismissive attitude towards him. It’s as if he never played as long as he did in GB, never was successful and good riddance when he left. I’m really curious as to the reason for this. All of you take the side of the Packers it seems and I don’t consider them innocent parties in the mess in any way, shape or form. The GB media puzzles me as well. They made their livings from the guy for years and yet all I read are snide remarks and gloating over his late season failure. Consdering they now cover the dullest, most charismatically challenged team, their approach makes me laugh. It’s a strange world indeed, when Favre is made out to be the villain, for simply wanting to play football again, and that was the bottom line..he wanted to play football. I’m not giving him a pass by ANY means but cannot see why he is made to bear the brunt of the debacle. I have several Packer friends and all of them feel that this org. is going to feel the brunt of TT’s decision for a long time to come.
    You will probably ignore this, but I appreciate you giving me the forum to express my views and others with similar thoughts.

  6. sfhayes Says:

    Hi Aisling, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’m not sure I agree that we’re dismissive of Favre, but if it appears that way I would suggest that this is a post-Favre-departure tone. I was a borderline Favre worshipper and wrote a long and effusive appraisal of Favre — the man and the player — for National Review magazine in March of last year.

    But I think he was the bad guy in the divorce. That’s not to say the Packers — and Ted Thompson — weren’t at fault. I think if you search the archives you’ll see plenty of criticism of their often poor performance in the Favre drama.

    But Brett lied. And he lied repeatedly. And he lied in ways that made it obvious he wasn’t telling the truth. (Again, if you look through the archives you can see this in detail.) All of that was disappointing, to say the least.

    But for me the real end point of my Favre-love came when he was offered the opportunity to return to the Packers and, after complaining and complaining that he wasn’t being offered such an opportunity, turned it down.

    Anyway, you might disagree with some of this (or all of it), but know that we were longtime Favre fans and still appreciate what he did for the Packers. I just wish he hadn’t done what he did at the end. Feel free to register further disagreements…

  7. awhayes Says:

    Aisling – this is the other brother writing. Thanks for your thoughts. I must say, I ended up getting criticized a fair amount in fact for taking longer than others to express frustration for Favre’s part in this whole thing. In fact, I still feel like something happened on the Packer end of things that really really pissed Favre off – something someday, I hope we’ll all know about.

    I will always appreciate what Favre did for the Packers. I still think the fact that he had 1 losing season makes him automatically, one of the greatest QBs of all-time. And, I would strongly support your label of the present Packers as “charismatically challenged” – a label I may need to borrow in future writings. I think we missed Favre’s leadership this year – even if he’s not a ra-ra vocal leader, he leads with his presence. I do think in the near future though, that Rodgers will settle in and prove he can lead.

    All this said, Favre does own at least some of the responsibility for the way he departed. Neither side handled it well and it to me, is one of the saddest things that has happened in Wisconsin sports history.

  8. cheese0317 Says:

    Question: If Mike and Ted cross the Rubicon, can they convince a decent defensive coordinator to follow them?

  9. Ron La Canne Says:

    At last, Special Teams problem solved. Assistant Coach, Shawn Slocum, has been promoted. I guess the Special Teams weren’t as bad as they looked. Seriously, I hope he is different and has just been waiting for his chance. We’ll have to wait and see. In the meantime I’m pulling for him to be so good the Packers kick coverage is #1 next year.

  10. Cindy V Says:

    Aisling:

    I cried when Brett announced his retirement. A good portion of my Packer Shrine is devoted to Brett. I watched him play with the Jets this season—as much as I could. I still buy Brett memorbilia and football cards.

    But I was very turned off by the whole drama of his “unretirement.” I don’t know if you live in Wisconsin, but it was a bit much here. And as stated by others, Brett was less than honest with us about his role in the whole debacle.

    I think about what would have happened if Brett stayed retired. Perhaps the pressure on Aaron Rodgers would be less. He would have left Green Bay a beloved figure for the rest of his life. Now, I would say half the fans still love him, but many are upset with him. Maybe the whole thing upset the inner workings of the team in ways we don’t understand and that’s what led to a 6-10 season. But it was really sad to see Brett throw only two touchdowns and 9 interceptions losing the last five games of the season for the Jets. To go 22 TDs and 22 INTs for the season and get the nasty comments from teammates and the NY press—well, I wonder if it was worth it to him.

  11. 56Coop Says:

    The fact that the Pack hired from within to fill their Special Teams coaching vacancies, at least in my eyes, gives credence to the issue of Green Bay not being a place where coaches/players want to come to. I certainnly hope DaveK is correct that we may get someone that cannot be talked to yet.

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