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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/packergeeks-season-grades/#comment-5541</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poppinga should have his grade adjusted.  He gets an A for falling on piles after the play is over.

If the Packers want to &quot;right the wrong&quot; of the J. Harrell pick, they should try their hardest to get N. Suh out of Nebraska in the draft of 2010.  He&#039;s a DT who put up amazing stats this past year, and will very likely be among the best (if not the best) DT in the country next year at the collegiate level.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5h8_dm1hes

The rest of the grades were spot on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poppinga should have his grade adjusted.  He gets an A for falling on piles after the play is over.</p>
<p>If the Packers want to &#8220;right the wrong&#8221; of the J. Harrell pick, they should try their hardest to get N. Suh out of Nebraska in the draft of 2010.  He&#8217;s a DT who put up amazing stats this past year, and will very likely be among the best (if not the best) DT in the country next year at the collegiate level.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5h8_dm1hes" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5h8_dm1hes</a></p>
<p>The rest of the grades were spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to do TT separately.  Your grade of C is too high.  Yr 1 4-12 let Wahle and Rivera go.  Yr 2 8-8 only after MM was able to string 4 Dec wins together.  Yr 3 13-3 Yipee were the youngest team and 1 game away from the Super Bowl.  We must be great.  Yr. 4 6-10 poor play on the part of both lines and the LB&#039;s created a less than stellar result.  4 years of Ted Thompson leaves us with an overall reg. season record of 31-33. 

Over that period of time the Defensive Line has steadily degraded to a position that leaves them with only one above average player and two slightly below average players.  The remainder of the D-line is not even NFL calibre.  Similarly, the O-Line has degraded each year to a point now where the last two real Pros on the Line, Clifton and Tauscher are at the end of their careers.  A crazy quilt of mid to low round draft choices are all that will remain.  Are we ready for Tony Moll and Colledge to start at the tackles next year?

The Favre affair.  The descision to let Favre go was the correct one.  The descision to involve MM in the sorid mess with Favre was a stupid blunder on TT&#039;s part.  He should have had the guts to be the point on that.

He does get credit for WR&#039;s selection, Safety selection. and QB.  Jury is out on CB&#039;s and kicker (can Crosby make the winning FG?)

I think Ted Thompson is the perfect example of Murphy&#039;s law.  Grade F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to do TT separately.  Your grade of C is too high.  Yr 1 4-12 let Wahle and Rivera go.  Yr 2 8-8 only after MM was able to string 4 Dec wins together.  Yr 3 13-3 Yipee were the youngest team and 1 game away from the Super Bowl.  We must be great.  Yr. 4 6-10 poor play on the part of both lines and the LB&#8217;s created a less than stellar result.  4 years of Ted Thompson leaves us with an overall reg. season record of 31-33. </p>
<p>Over that period of time the Defensive Line has steadily degraded to a position that leaves them with only one above average player and two slightly below average players.  The remainder of the D-line is not even NFL calibre.  Similarly, the O-Line has degraded each year to a point now where the last two real Pros on the Line, Clifton and Tauscher are at the end of their careers.  A crazy quilt of mid to low round draft choices are all that will remain.  Are we ready for Tony Moll and Colledge to start at the tackles next year?</p>
<p>The Favre affair.  The descision to let Favre go was the correct one.  The descision to involve MM in the sorid mess with Favre was a stupid blunder on TT&#8217;s part.  He should have had the guts to be the point on that.</p>
<p>He does get credit for WR&#8217;s selection, Safety selection. and QB.  Jury is out on CB&#8217;s and kicker (can Crosby make the winning FG?)</p>
<p>I think Ted Thompson is the perfect example of Murphy&#8217;s law.  Grade F</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Rogders</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/packergeeks-season-grades/#comment-5539</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL, that&#039;s right, Frost doesn&#039;t even need a description. 

I agree with all the grades until I got down to coaching. Giving McCarthy a C- is pretty high in my opinion. The packers were making the same mistakes all season. Am I wrong in saying that the it is the coach&#039;s job to fix those mistakes during practice? The pad level excuse all year long was extremely annoying. He never admitted to any of his own mistakes. Anytime someone challenged him on why he did a certain play call, he always said he believes it was the right call, he was never wrong. His play calling towards the end of EVERY game was the playing not to lose instead of playing to win. He actually believed that his defense could win us a game if we went ahead by a field goal instead of a touchdown...

TT HAS A C! What have you been smoking?? Besides the Favre situation, Frost, Harrell, and not wanting to acquire Free Agents, the draft wasn&#039;t the most excellent either...

Can we grade the draft choices? Here are my opinions on them:

1. Nelson - When announced at Lambeau Field, the large crowd became very quiet. Everyone was going through their draft papers trying to find out who the heck this guy is. Everyone was expecting Brohm with the first pick. It was then announced that the Packers picked Nelson because they were impressed with this hands and athletic ability. I do believe that Nelson was a good pick but was also a little bit of a reach. They could have got him with the other second round pick. It is possible he could have made it to the third round as well. I think the Packers got scared when they saw the Rams and Redskins pickup WR before them. So the Packers made Nelson the third overall selected WR.

2. Brohm - Yes, I am going to say it now. BUST!

3. Lee - Had a good college career. He looks good in practice and he looked good the few times he played defense.  He did suffer a knee injury though which effected his playing time and was eventually put on IR. I know he didn&#039;t do much this season but this is a good pick.

4. Finley - Apparently he was considered an &quot;athletic monster&quot; in Texas. He then ran a 4.62 40 yard dash... which I would think a lot of tight ends can do. He should really lose some weight and tryout as a WR because TE is NOT the position he should be playing. Whenever you put Finley on the field, the defense already knows you are going to pass the ball. He should not have been selected in the third round.

5. Thompson - We did not need a finesse DE. He is from Wake Forest. He needs some proteins shakes and some MYO Shock.

6. Sitton - He was not on the draft radar. He was not expected to even get picked from the draft. So he must have been excited being picked from the fourth round. He did do everything he was asked to do and a lot of it, so I can&#039;t really say he was a horrible pick either.

7. Giacomini - Who is this guy?

8. Flynn - He may be the steal of the draft. BCS champion QB in the seventh round. How did this happen?

9. Swain - Who knows where he is... don&#039;t think he will ever be a starting NFL WR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, that&#8217;s right, Frost doesn&#8217;t even need a description. </p>
<p>I agree with all the grades until I got down to coaching. Giving McCarthy a C- is pretty high in my opinion. The packers were making the same mistakes all season. Am I wrong in saying that the it is the coach&#8217;s job to fix those mistakes during practice? The pad level excuse all year long was extremely annoying. He never admitted to any of his own mistakes. Anytime someone challenged him on why he did a certain play call, he always said he believes it was the right call, he was never wrong. His play calling towards the end of EVERY game was the playing not to lose instead of playing to win. He actually believed that his defense could win us a game if we went ahead by a field goal instead of a touchdown&#8230;</p>
<p>TT HAS A C! What have you been smoking?? Besides the Favre situation, Frost, Harrell, and not wanting to acquire Free Agents, the draft wasn&#8217;t the most excellent either&#8230;</p>
<p>Can we grade the draft choices? Here are my opinions on them:</p>
<p>1. Nelson &#8211; When announced at Lambeau Field, the large crowd became very quiet. Everyone was going through their draft papers trying to find out who the heck this guy is. Everyone was expecting Brohm with the first pick. It was then announced that the Packers picked Nelson because they were impressed with this hands and athletic ability. I do believe that Nelson was a good pick but was also a little bit of a reach. They could have got him with the other second round pick. It is possible he could have made it to the third round as well. I think the Packers got scared when they saw the Rams and Redskins pickup WR before them. So the Packers made Nelson the third overall selected WR.</p>
<p>2. Brohm &#8211; Yes, I am going to say it now. BUST!</p>
<p>3. Lee &#8211; Had a good college career. He looks good in practice and he looked good the few times he played defense.  He did suffer a knee injury though which effected his playing time and was eventually put on IR. I know he didn&#8217;t do much this season but this is a good pick.</p>
<p>4. Finley &#8211; Apparently he was considered an &#8220;athletic monster&#8221; in Texas. He then ran a 4.62 40 yard dash&#8230; which I would think a lot of tight ends can do. He should really lose some weight and tryout as a WR because TE is NOT the position he should be playing. Whenever you put Finley on the field, the defense already knows you are going to pass the ball. He should not have been selected in the third round.</p>
<p>5. Thompson &#8211; We did not need a finesse DE. He is from Wake Forest. He needs some proteins shakes and some MYO Shock.</p>
<p>6. Sitton &#8211; He was not on the draft radar. He was not expected to even get picked from the draft. So he must have been excited being picked from the fourth round. He did do everything he was asked to do and a lot of it, so I can&#8217;t really say he was a horrible pick either.</p>
<p>7. Giacomini &#8211; Who is this guy?</p>
<p>8. Flynn &#8211; He may be the steal of the draft. BCS champion QB in the seventh round. How did this happen?</p>
<p>9. Swain &#8211; Who knows where he is&#8230; don&#8217;t think he will ever be a starting NFL WR</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy V</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/packergeeks-season-grades/#comment-5538</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Shpherd Express also had a very good article recapping the year.  It can be found on www.expressmilwaukee.com  It&#039;s pretty much a numbers thing but you can see where the Pack stan compared to others in the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shpherd Express also had a very good article recapping the year.  It can be found on <a href="http://www.expressmilwaukee.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.expressmilwaukee.com</a>  It&#8217;s pretty much a numbers thing but you can see where the Pack stan compared to others in the league.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron La Canne</title>
		<link>http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/packergeeks-season-grades/#comment-5537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron La Canne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty solid analysis, overall.  Few areas I&#039;d disagree with:

1.  Cole - C to D-  Cole had 49 tackles this year.  That was the lowest tackle count of any of the regulars or semi-regulars on the D-Line.  He was 22 tackles behind Montgomery, his nearest competition.

2.  Bishop - C to D+  Not consistent enough to rate the higher  score.  Too many mistakes, even though the defensive coaching was a contributor to that consistency.  He has a way to go yet, but potential is there.

3.  Malone - C+ to D-  13 tackles, enough said.

4.  Hunter - C- to D-      13 tackles enough said.

5.  Chillar - B to D+     He was the best performer at LB for the Packers.  He still wasn&#039;t above average compared to other LB&#039;s in the League.

6.  Wells - C to D-   If you go back and review the DVR&#039;s closely he was just plain destroyed on a regular basis.  I&#039;m sure his injury effected him more than anyone would let on.  However, with a back surgery scheduled, I doubt his return.  Better get Birk!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty solid analysis, overall.  Few areas I&#8217;d disagree with:</p>
<p>1.  Cole &#8211; C to D-  Cole had 49 tackles this year.  That was the lowest tackle count of any of the regulars or semi-regulars on the D-Line.  He was 22 tackles behind Montgomery, his nearest competition.</p>
<p>2.  Bishop &#8211; C to D+  Not consistent enough to rate the higher  score.  Too many mistakes, even though the defensive coaching was a contributor to that consistency.  He has a way to go yet, but potential is there.</p>
<p>3.  Malone &#8211; C+ to D-  13 tackles, enough said.</p>
<p>4.  Hunter &#8211; C- to D-      13 tackles enough said.</p>
<p>5.  Chillar &#8211; B to D+     He was the best performer at LB for the Packers.  He still wasn&#8217;t above average compared to other LB&#8217;s in the League.</p>
<p>6.  Wells &#8211; C to D-   If you go back and review the DVR&#8217;s closely he was just plain destroyed on a regular basis.  I&#8217;m sure his injury effected him more than anyone would let on.  However, with a back surgery scheduled, I doubt his return.  Better get Birk!</p>
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