Comments on: Sad game…sad year

By: bucky

bucky — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:14:46 +0000

I’m not so sure Brett has proven that he is “very good” without the Packers. He’s got 20 touchdowns and 15 picks, with an 88.2 passer rating (down 7.5 points from last year), as opposed to our current QB, who has 22 TDs and 11 INTs, and a passer rating of 92.1. In the last two games (crunch time, if you will), against Denver and San Fran- not exactly the stoutest defenses in the league- he’s thrown for 0 TDs, 2 picks, and a 60.9 passer rating.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:17:14 +0000

“Oh yeah-one observaton about the Favre thing. Brett has proven that he is very good with or without the Packers. The Packers have NOT proven that they are very good with or without Brett.”

Have to wonder though how Brett would have looked with this team. After all, he didn’t do much that 4-12 season.

By: 56Coop

56Coop — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:37:40 +0000

Oh yeah–you guys know alot more aout the workings of the Packers than I. I’ve just been a die hard fan for 40 years. Suppose it was decided to clean house–get rid of Murphy, Mcarthy & Thompson. Since there is no owner, how doeds that happen? Is it up to the Board iof Directors or what?

Not suggesting nthat is what will happen or even that it should–just curious about the logistics..

Thanks

By: 56Coop

56Coop — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:34:40 +0000

You wanna know what’s really gonna suck (Besides this year)? Detroit goes 1-15, winning their last game if the year–against GB. I’ve just got this naggin feeling that Culpepper’s going to pick us apart.

Oh yeah-one observaton about the Favre thing. Brett has proven that he is very good with or without the Packers. The Packers have NOT proven that they are very good with or without Brett.

Rue, despiar & agony on me..

By: awhayes

awhayes — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:01:40 +0000

Bucky – I think Grady Jackson is an option. He has played really well for Atlanta this year. Jackson next to Pickett would be a difficult line to move around.

Bucky, I’m glad you mentioned the Patriots. Whenever people talk about how great TT’s system is (draft way more important than free agency) – I stop and think about the Patriots. They are very active in free agency. Sure, they’ll pick up good players in the draft simply because every team gets to draft players. But they seem to be the masters of quality free agent pick-ups. Sometimes they spend a fortune on a free agent (Adalius Thomas) and sometimes they spend surprisingly little. Sometimes they trade for players (Wes Welker) and part with draft picks because they know the player will be good. Any way they do it, they are out there active in free agency and active in the trade market and their system has proven to be as effective as any.

By: bucky

bucky — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:39:25 +0000

From that list, it looks like both Colin Cole and Mike Montgomery are UFAs. I have a hard time imagining that either will draw much interest, so they may be worth signing as depth.

As for bringing in someone new, the Packers need a DT far more than they need a DE. This is doubly true if Kampman is as good as everyone else thinks he is. Haynesworth is clearly the best of this group, character issues aside. Not sure who else is worth any money. Certainly not Grady Jackson and Kenny Peterson. We could also use some LB help. Ray Lewis is on the list, and he’s still performing at a high level.

It’s also worth remembering that teams like the Pats are a ble to find some pretty good bargains in the free agent market. You fon’t always need to be signing the high profile guys; sometimes getting three of the regular guy FAs is better than landing the whale.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:56:38 +0000

Joshy – Pretty up to date here:

http://www.theredzone.org/2009/freeagents/

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:48:59 +0000

Josh, The D-Line has guys like Peppers and Haynesworth coming out. Not sure of the O-Line but I think the D-Line is the critical need. GB needa a stud pass rusher and who better than Peppers.

By: joshywoshybigfatposhy

joshywoshybigfatposhy — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:48:41 +0000

i’d be interested to know what the o-line and d-line free agents are this upcoming off-season. i’m too buzy (hybrid of busy/lazy, leaning toward the latter) at the moment, but wouldn’t it be fun to spend the next 6 months or so wondering why thompson isn’t making a bid for any of them? i think that would be just peachy.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:46:32 +0000

We don’t know if he will learn anything but if he doesn’t he’ll be out of there sooner rather than later. However, I think TT has shown that he will address issues on the field. For example, he signed Chillar because of the inability of the D to cover a TE. Part of the problem this year, is that some of these issues I don’t think people expected. Clifton played extremely well last year and he’s been crap this year. Our D wasn’t fantastic last year but it was far superior to what it is now.

Something happened between last year and this year and I’m not quite sure what. But I don’t think many people would have predicted a season like this. And I think we were a little blind after the wonder of last year. I don’t think we were really a 13-3 team last year. I think we were a 9-7/10-6 team that got some lucky breaks. And this year we aren’t getting those breaks – five of our losses were by 4 points or less.

TT and MM might have just gotten really lucky last year. Or they might have just gotten a Murphy’s law year this year. I don’t know, but I’m willing to give them the chance to make changes before I start calling for their heads.