Comments on: Packers not done yet

By: I Don’t See It | Cheesehead TV

I Don’t See It | Cheesehead TV — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:26:22 +0000

[...] you turn in the Packer Blogosphere and even in the accredited media you find pieces about the Packers playoff chances, complete with [...]

By: Ace

Ace — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:02:10 +0000

Thoughts:
1-Win over Panthers was critical. Packers make playoffs in inferior division if they had won.
2-Goodell will wimp out (Adam is Pacman again and still suiting up)-no Viking suspensions and Vikes finish 3-1 thereby clinching playoffs. Giants will be protecting players in season finale-could lose to Vikes.
3-Sorry Andy-harder to choke when offense is based on 30 carries for Peterson, 6 dumps to Taylor and defense has rock solid D line. Reduces likely mental errors.
4-Pack is not lucky this year like they were last year. Fumbles bouncing wrong way. Key injuries. Kick teams not special (exc Will B. on punts). The Pack will be back in 09. 10-6 or better.

By: bucky

bucky — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:25:26 +0000

At the risk of sounding like I'm sucking up to get back into the Hayes' good graces, I have to say that I agree almost entirely with Andy. I have a hard time seeign the Vikings going any better than 2-2, and 1-3 is not out of the realm of possibility. Part of it is because the schedule is pretty damn tough, and part of it is that I simply don't buy into Gus Frerotte and, to a lesser extent, Brad Childress. Sorry, but I watched Frerotte throw 3 picks against the Packers despite absolutely no pass rush; unless the Vikes simply refuse to throw the ball against the Falcons, Cards and Giants, he will turn the ball over. Of course, catching the teams in front depends in no small measure on how well the Packers play. As I said before this weekend's game, every game is winnable. However, from what we've seen of the Packers in recent weeks, they are all losable too, even the finale against the Lions. If GB takes care of their own business, things will work out. But they have to start taking care of business. The margin for error no longer exists.

By: DaveK

DaveK — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:38:43 +0000

I think the NFL is in a bind with this Star Cap situation. The league policy is that players are responsible for what is in their bodies…period. You can’t use the Barry Bonds excuse of not knowing what your trainer was giving you or that you did know what was in your supplement. The NFL has a list of approved supplements and Star Caps was not one of them. This should be clear cut but these players are making the argument that the NFL official in charge of this stuff knew Star Caps had a banned substance but did not warn players. I think this argument is silly. The players still took suplements that the league had not approved. I just don’t think the NFL has the duty to put out warnings on every possible supplement on the market. Players know they need to stick to the approved list and if they want to cut weight they should stop putting food in their pie hole and not use untested and non-approved supplements to cut weight.

The pickle for the NFL is that they have to suspend players and really hurt a team about to win their division when these players probably took Star Caps because they wanted to cut weight (for contractual reasons) and not because they wanted to mask steroids. Or, do they not suspend them and set a really bad precedent that there is wiggle room in the no tolerance drug policy. It is really a no win situation for the NFL. We’ll find out tommorow I guess.

By: awhayes

awhayes — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:34:18 +0000

thought the same thing Bucky especially re Atlanta. Another issue may be that the Cards and the Giants may not give it their all because they most likely will have already clinched…which could make it extra tough.

DaveK – it would be something if anyone gets suspended. It would be fair because as far as I understand it, it was a violation of a clear policy, but I just don’t know if Goodell has the stones to do this. Man do I hope he does because that could really change these last 4 games.

By: DaveK

DaveK — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:22:29 +0000

NFL is set to hand down rulings on the Star Cap players tommorow. Vikes may be without their two interior DT’s for the last four games.

By: bucky

bucky — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:18:24 +0000

Arizona may be returning to Earth, although they remain tough at home, and they will be hosting the Vikes. But how is Atlanta doing so? Last time I checked they were 8-4, having won 4 of their last five, including a pretty serious beat down over Carolina.

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:36:43 +0000

Not to be a total contrarian, but …. Atlanta and Arizona are returning to earth. To tie with the Vikings = Pack 4-0 and Vikes 2-2. To tie with Bears = Pack 4-0 and Bears 3-1. This implies of course GB wins in Chicago. MM needs to find out who can play and who cannot. Then begin the repair work.