Comments on: Favre via Peter King: “total b.s.”

By: scott in wisconsin

scott in wisconsin — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:55:43 +0000

I’ll be interested to see what BF says during his Wednesday conference. Maybe he needs to talk to Ari Fleisher? I predict the “brett favre steakhouse” is not here this time next year and is turned into an Outback.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:42:21 +0000

ja, he’s willing to name the Lions because he had multiple sources who were in a position to know and had no ax to grind with anyone. And since he can’t verify the second team with neutral sources he’s not going to ‘out’ them.

It isn’t shoddy journalism just because it isn’t something you want to hear. Glazer has a pretty good reputation. He broke the Spygate story, Nolan’s firing, and Favre to the Jets. He hasn’t had many misses and this doesn’t seem like it is one. Even Peter King who has been a staunch Favre supporter thinks that Favre likely did it. Just because ESPN isn’t reporting it doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Especially when pretty much everyone else in the industry thinks it is.

By: ja

ja — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:32:12 +0000

If you believe Glazer’s sources were not Packer sources, then who were Jason Wilde’s sources? And why have none of the Detroit writers been able to confirm this? Is Lions COO Tom Lewand also lying?

And if you read what Glazer said, he admits that the Packers were the source about the other team that Favre also helped. But Glazer apparently didn’t bother to check that out before writing it. And why is he willing to name the Lions but not the other team?

Regardless of whether this story is true or partially true, it’s still pretty shoddy journalism, IMHO. It’s refreshing to see that ESPN is ignoring it for what it is: a non-story.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:01:58 +0000

It is still hard to figure out how this fits. If Favre managed to keep up this charade fo 16 years, you wonder how he mismanaged the un-retirement crap so badly.

I do wonder if some of this is because Big Irv is gone. Maybe he was the only one who could keep Favre’s ego in check and without him everyone just fed his ego. And Sherman likely didn’t help either.

No matter what, it is pretty sad to see someone ruin their legacy so quickly while really hurting their former teammates and fans.

By: Donald's Designated Driver

Donald's Designated Driver — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:01:09 +0000

…or it could be that for many of those 15 years (I’d argue it was more like 12-13 before the “real Favre” revealed himself) Favre got everything he wanted and never had occassion to show his nasty side. When Thompson came aboard and started to establish himself as the man in charge, that is when we started to see the real Favre.

By: awhayes

awhayes — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:55:20 +0000

packerbelle/DaveK – with you both on this one. What is so strange about this whole thing is that Favre either managed to maintain a great public image somehow for 16 years because he just is a great guy or he effectively hid a nasty side. Mark Chmura has been saying for several years that what people don’t know about Favre is that he’s incredibly selfish. Right now, it appears to me that Chmura is right.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:49:35 +0000

Dave, I totally agree with you. I always thought Favre was one of the best QBs ever. And part of that was because he seemed like he was a genuinely nice guy who just wanted to play the game and be part of a team. He seemed the antithesis to Peyton Manning who whined when things didn’t go his way, blamed his teammates and took all the credit when things went well. Instead Favre gave credit for wins to his teammates, took the blame for losses on himself and seemed to understand that it was a game.

So I have to wonder, where we hoodwinked for 16 years or is there a deeper issue going on that we really don’t know about? I guess I still find it hard to believe that the guy I thought I knew is a completely different person.

By: DaveK

DaveK — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:44:42 +0000

For 15 years I watched Favre and rarely wasn’t impressed how the guy handled himself. Interviews. How he played the game. How he interacted with teammates. He seemed down to earth, honest, and a strait shooter no matter the venue. He seemed to appreciate the fact that he got to play football, something he really loved, for a living. He was a super star yet seemed like a normal guy and I think that endeared him to millions of NFL fans and not just Packer fans. He seemed one of the good guys in sports and I felt lucky that my team was privileged to have him for so long be the face of the franchise. It was nice have one of the best ever to play for your team and be a total great guy to boot. My gut tells me though there is truth to this story and it is disappointing to say the least. I’m not sure how this story will shake out. Maybe some more information will clear the air a bit and I remain open to that. But, if true, this is clearly a sitation where Brett put himself before teammates and fans. And, that takes some of the shine off the golden boy.

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:29:57 +0000

To all Favreophiles — I have absolutely no respect for a man(? maybe baby boy) who would do anything to hurt his former teammates. To me the jerk is DEAD.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:32:43 +0000

ja, this isn’t just coming from Packer sources. Glazer’s sources were from outside the organization. Greg Bedard posted a blog about it.

“There was no reason for the sources to mislead me. It didn’t come from Packer sources. Although it was interesting when I talked to the Packers they had known about it — they didn’t know about the Lions. They had actually heard about another team and the Packers, when they heard about it originally, had switched up a bunch of stuff supposedly for this happening”-Glazer

It really does seem like this is true. No one, besides Favre himself, is denying the story. Which is very, very sad that someone who could have gone down as one of the greatest QBs ever partially due to his personality is now completely destroying his legacy by acting like a spoiled, vindictive brat.