Comments on: Sign Ryan Grant

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:57:34 +0000

Report from camp on Jackson day one – “He doesn’t look like he’s learned a lot in the off-season.” Many mistakes!

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:41:14 +0000

Jackson is better as a receiver than Grant which can open up more opportunities in the offense. And he was looking much better at the end of the season. Granted Detroit stinks but he managed to average 5.6 yards against them and he averaged 4.3 yards against the Seahawks.

By: awhayes

awhayes — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:13:49 +0000

PackerBelle – not with you on this one. Grant showed talent last year, far more talent than Gado. And, when Gado came back his next year, he was way overweight and not good. And, importantly, Gado was racking up yards when the outcome of the game was largely determined from the opening kickoff because the team sucked that year. Defenses didn’t mind giving up a few yards here and there. While I initially worried Grant wasn’t being reasonable here, the newer info we have indicates it is the Packers being cheap.

And, just while I’ll give you that signing Grant long-term involves some risk (as it does with any player), I would say it’s far less risky to sign him to an incentive-based contract now than to risk losing a player who could be very very good in the NFL to free agency next year.

You are right about Poppinga – he is consistent, just not consistently good.

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:45:42 +0000

So I guess you’re happy with Jackson as the starter? I’m not.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:37:51 +0000

Brady Poppinga has shown himself to be fairly consistent and a team player. Grant has not.

As for Samkon Gado, while his play may not have been as good as Grant’s that doesn’t mean the analogy is flawed. He is a guy who came in as a back up and due to injuries became the starter and excelled. And he wasn’t that consistent. He followed up the Denver game with a 2.9 average in KC, a 3.1 average at St. Louis and a horrid game against the Giants. And lets not forget the two fumbles against Seattle. He could be a great RB but he could also be a one year wonder. And until he proves himself I don’t think he should be asking for a huge contract.

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:06:22 +0000

Err folks, and Brady Poppinga can’t be replaced? If your Gado analogy holds water, I guess it’s only running backs you think should be tossed away. Grant’s numbers, as Steve points out, were second only to Tommilison in games where he played a significant role. Gado was never consistent, he had some good games. Overall his game by game performance was not at Grant’s level.

By: Ron La Canne

Ron La Canne — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:55:49 +0000

Opps! The brian cells are not functioning — Should have been Corey Williams.

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:53:06 +0000

I have two words: Samkon Gado. He looked really good coming in late in the season and saving the Packer’s running game and then stunk the rest of his brief career. We have no idea if Ryan Grant will be a one season wonder and he can’t play anywhere besides Green Bay so why should the Packers pay him a crapload of money? Let him sign a one year tender show us what he can do and then we can talk the $5 million signing bonus his agent wants. Until then I think Grant needs to get over himself and play.

By: Eric Mortensen

Eric Mortensen — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:47:32 +0000

I agree that Thompson or Ball (whoever is in charge of getting the contract signed) is being cheap. I think the contract will get signed sooner than most think though. I believe this was just an opening offer and the Packers are waiting for Grant’s counteroffer. I personally think it will end up with Grant getting around 3-4 million with the opportunity to renegotiate it in the future. The Packers probably don’t want to give Grant a ton of money yet since who know if last year was a fluke. I seriously doubt it but it could have been. Remember Samkon Gado. He had a great year and then he was cut the next season. While I don’t think this will be the case with Grant I think this is the reason why Thompson is being cautious about giving Grant a bunch of money. I expect the deal will get done in a week or two. Despite missing some of training camp it will still be better than last season where he wasn’t even here for training camp.

As far as Montgomery goes I haven’t heard anything about him being cut either. It really wouldn’t make any sense since we are already thin in the defensive line so why would we cut him now?

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:39:20 +0000

Montgomery was cut? Huh? I see nothing on the transaction wire… ?
http://www.nfl.com/transactions