Comments on: Cheesehead TV - anti-Beaver

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:48:12 +0000

“I do know that in general Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy have shown themselves to be very good judges of talent and I’m willing to trust them and their better knowledge of how players perform.”

In general I agree with this too; these guys have done a great job but the roster is also weak at RB and I really don’t understand why Wynn is still on the roster - even if Beaver is not signed to replace him. I really don’t see much upside to Wynn.

But the horse is dead so lets all raise our PBRs. Na zdorovye, Prost, Cheers, Skål, and the like.

By: awhayes

awhayes — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:43:16 +0000

PackerBelle - good point. I too will admit my tendency with MM/TT is to defer to their demonstrated ability to make personnel decisions as they seem to have done a good job of putting talent together and winning with it. That said, I still think there are some things they do from time to time that don’t quite line up (like keeping 13 receivers on the roster). We’ll see though - I still contend that his versatility, massive college production even at D-III, and attitude will be an asset someday to some NFL team. (By the way, if the Packers don’t pick him up yet, my guess is the Colts may, they liked him after his Pro Day).

By: PackerBelle

PackerBelle — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:19:28 +0000

I don’t know enough to comment about whether or not the Packers should have signed Beaver. I will say that none of us were present at the rookie camp and saw how he performed - the coaches were. It may be that something happened there that led to him not getting signed. I don’t know. I do know that in general Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy have shown themselves to be very good judges of talent and I’m willing to trust them and their better knowledge of how players perform.

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:47:33 +0000

Pabst all around! It doesn’t get any better than Packer talk and a cold PBR.

By: sfhayes

sfhayes — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:19:43 +0000

A top priority. And since awhayes is driving out here, I assume he will be bringing at least three cases of Pabst Light — the anti-hangover beer — which is not yet available in these backward parts of our fine country.

By: awhayes

awhayes — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:03:15 +0000

While Joe and I may disagree with Aaron re the potential value of Justin Beaver, I’m in total agreement with the glass of Pabst. I will soon reunite with brother Steve for a visit with his family and Pabst will no doubt be a priority.

By: To Packer Geeks (and Joe) | Cheesehead TV

To Packer Geeks (and Joe) | Cheesehead TV — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:59:43 +0000

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By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:14:57 +0000

Also - how many games did you see Lumpkin play? How many of his touches have you broken down on tape? You seem certain that, based on stats and stats alone, Beaver is a much better prospect for the Packers’ offense than Lumpkin. What do you know that Thompson and his staff do not…? Inquiring minds want to know!

By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:11:51 +0000

Joe,

You must have seen a whole lot more UW Whitewater games than I have. I can only take your word that Beaver is such a prodigious talent.

I suspect this whole argument is moot anyway. Beaver will most likely get his chance after the next owners meeting, where it seems the owners will increase rosters to 86, now that NFL Europa is no more.

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:56:35 +0000

Aaron - you think Jackson is much improved and that Morency is great at picking up the blitz. I think Jackson is unproven at best and a flop in the making at worst. (I hope I am wrong). But I am also not saying lets cut Jackson to make room for Beaver. I think Morecny did well blocking but blitz pick up is a coachable skill - being fast and elusive isn’t. I would cut Morency to add Beaver – but we don’t have to. We still have Wynn and in my opinion Wynn is simply less talented than Beaver. I think the team would be improved if Beaver got his spot. Likewise, what does Kregg Lumpkin have that Beaver doesn’t? Who? You know, Kregg Lumpkin the RB from Goerga who carried the ball 12 times for 44 yards his senior season, 162 times for 798 yards his junior season. That Kregg Lumpkin.

But we don’t have to cut a RB to make room for Beaver. Heck don’t we have one open roster spot left? Further, do we really need 13 WRs heading into camp? We also have 2 LS on the roster right now. I understand that we have to replace Rob Davis but …

The bigger point, is that nobody was saying sign Beaver ONLY for PR. It has always been a two pronged argument: He has talent (more than some other folks on the roster) and he is a great story.